I was trying to find an XML Schema for XAML. Is there one? DOM is
very unconstrained so building a DOM that's well-formed XAML seems
Are you aware of http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/sldt/?
It's interesting to see some of the Oslo developments. It makes you
wonder if Microsoft will build a DSL for XAML. :-)
XML continues to strike me as a poor man's excuse for human readable
syntax that's primarily driven by a desire to avoid having to write
lexers and parsers. It's great for interchange, but not so great for
Angelo zerr wrote:
The subject is very interesting but I believe that Eclipse E4 have
intention to use EMF.
I would like call about TK-UI for declarative UI but TK-UI use DOM and
it seems that people prefer EMF than DOM.
I would like just say too, that I'm refactoring TK-UI to use UFace (where
I'm contributing) which propose this project to Eclipse
I think that UFace is very interesting for declarative UI because :
* it provide universal API to render it to SWT, Swing, QT, GWT...
* manage binding with JFace Databinding. So you can bind properties of
widget (visible, text...), layout properties (orientation, with...)
with anything. Into TK-UI it's easy to bind DOM element, attributes
with tje UIElement. Each properties (ex : setVisible) notify
* manage Databinding with UIForm. It's easy to manage master detail and
into TK-UI I'm using to manage Databinding _expression_ Language (like
XAML binding epression).
2008/11/5 Kevin McGuire <Kevin_McGuire@xxxxxxxxxx>
Thanks all who responded to my
note. As we did for the styling roundup, it'd be great if people
could fill in a bit of information about a proposed technology as prep
for us all for a call.
At your earliest convenience,
take a moment to fill in an entry in the following table: http://wiki.eclipse.org/E4/DeclarativeUI/Declarative_Construction_Roundup
You'll notice a striking
to the styling one we did, about midway down http://wiki.eclipse.org/E4/DeclarativeUI/Styling_Roundup.
The idea here is that providing
information shouldn't be laborious on the part of the presenter, but
for everyone to get started investigating. We'll then have a bakeoff
call, post slides and notes back to the wiki.
We should aim to have the call in
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As you may recall, in August we
a Styling roundup to look at the different available skinning
While organizing it, we discussed also wanting to do one for
There was a lot of interest at the
and there's been lots of discussion on this list lately about different
declarative UI technologies/approaches. I think the Styling one went
well so I was wondering if folks wanted to do one for declarative UIs?
This would involve some people
to do a short presentation on a particular technology, either their own
(e.g. XSWT) or one they are familiar with (e.g. XUL). There'd be
some prep in putting a small amount of information on the e4 wiki, then
a call with presentations. The idea is to have some decent content
to discuss but not create a big presentation job for folks, so the
would be on short presentations (and also out of the interest of
the call to say 1.5 hours which will be a challenge I think).
The goals of the call would
but not be limited to:
1) All getting on the "same page"
with respect to the different technology choices available to us.
2) Open discussion of pros/cons of
3) What problems we believe it
solve in the e4 context.
4) Hopefully come away with a
number of "most promising" technologies which the community could
focus on in e4.
Any interest? Note that this is
community driven content, so "yes" would mean "yes I'll
sign up to provide some content".
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