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Re: [eclipse-incubator-e4-dev] SWT port to Flex


Sorry Pat, I didn't intend the URL slap.

What problem would providing the spirit of SWT on top of Flex and Dojo solve?  What language would you program in?  _javascript_ or ActionScript?  Not useful I think.  If you are using "native" technologies and don't intend portability, then just use them.

SWT for Dojo for Rhino:  This would be programming SWT in _javascript_, right?  I'm not sure what this would solve either.



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Trying to wrap my head around what this even means.  Is there a write-up somewhere?  You can't use a Java JCL directly with Flex, so I assume you want to start with GWT or Harmony and transmute the required classes to ActionScript.

My first take would have been to try to provide the spirit of SWT on top of existing Flex (and for Dojo, dojo) infrastructure, as much as you can.  But that's a different styled kind of result, and it's not clear that it would be all that useful anyway.  

Here's an interesting thought: SWT for Dojo for Rhino.  Which would of course use the "real" SWT in the end.  Giving you some kind of "portability" story for JS across SWT/Java and SWT/Dojo/browser.  Unless that's what SWT for Dojo already is ...

On Sep 18, 2008, at 1:45 PM, Steve Northover wrote:

One of the big issues when porting SWT to a platform where Java isn't running is that Java isn't running.  For the Flex port, a cross-compiler was written that converts Java to ActionScript, but there's more than just syntax translation involved when running Java without a JVM.  Java programs need a Java Class Library (JCL) to code against.  For the Flex prototype, a small CLDC-like"Java Class Library was written.  This was done to get off the ground but in the long run, maintaining this JCL is not attractive.

For the SWT Dojo port, GWT was used for both the cross-compiler and JCL.  Moving forward, I can see two obvious candidates for a JCL for Flex: GWT or Harmony.  I believe that the obvious approach (ie. use Sun's) isn't on the table for licensing reasons.


I'm proposing that we (e4) investigate GWT and Harmony.  Does anyone else have any other ideas?


Patrick Mueller
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