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[eclipse-incubator-e4-dev] Re: [wtp-dev] JSDT and e4

JSDT pretty much includes all the features for developing JS as the JDT does for Java,  except for run/debug support.

For doing the e4 related work, it seems like there are 2 flavors of what need to be done, one to support development of plugins

in JS, and one to support eclipse on the web (Web 2.0 stuff).

For supporting plugins in JS, we would need:
        - Rhino debugger,  I t think this already exists in BIRT, hopefully it could be broken out into a stand-alone plugin.
        - PDE integration, since JSDT provides much the same extension points/ (provisional) APIs as JDT, it should be pretty straightforward to do           this.
 A resulting SDK would consist of:
        base eclipse SDK
                JSDT core/UI plugins
                Rhino Debug plugin
                PDE integration plugin (or modified existing PDE)

For supporting Web 2.0 / Eclipse on Web,  I would think the base SDK would be WTP.
The only additional piece needed would be JS on browser debugging support, which we can get from the ATF project.              

Phil Berkland
IBM Software Group Emerging Technologies

Mike Wilson <Mike_Wilson@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Re: [wtp-dev] JSDT and e4

(I'm finally starting to get caught up on my email...)

There haven't been any conversations (with anybody) about _javascript_
tooling yet. All that those bullets on the slides were intended to convey
was that if the SDK is going to have an increased focus on _javascript_
support (e.g. plug-ins in _javascript_, scripting, web 2.0 stuff,...) then JS
tools will need to be part of the SDK.

I would be very interested in hearing your thoughts about ways to make that
happen. The bad news is that I don't have any idea how best to proceed.
(The good news is I have no preconceptions. <g>)


            Phil Berkland                                                
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We havent been involved in any conversations yet, but hope to be in the
future.  I did touch base with Jeff McActer after the e4 presentation.

Phil Berkland
IBM Software Group Emerging Technologies

"Konstantin Komissarchik" <kosta@xxxxxxx>                                
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                                                               JSDT and  

Today at the Eclipse 4.0 talk at EclipseCon there an emphasis placed on
first-class _javascript_ tooling being part of e4 (because of the desire to
allow people to write plugins using _javascript_). Has the JSDT team been
involved in these conversations?

- Konstantin

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