RE: [eclipse-dev] Is there any interest in a committers forum?

["Mike Milinkovich" <mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I agree that Ed is on to something. I suspect that in the future there will be a greater need for cross-project co-ordination and discussion.

 

If Eclipse's committers want the Foundation to create such a newsgroup, I am volunteering Denis and Matt to figure out a way to make it happen. What I do not understand is the desired visibility for such a newsgroup. Is it public or private? Should it be writable only by committers, but readable by all? Depending on what is desired, the task of making it happen varies somewhere between trivial and indeterminate.

 

I don't want to take away from Ed and EclipseZone's kind offer. But it seems to me that the needs of the committer community should be dealt with at eclipse.org. The whole point of the Foundation is to support the needs of its members, which most definitely includes its committers. We haven't made as much visible progress as I want, but we're definitely working hard to make things better.

 

/mike

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From: eclipse-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:eclipse-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Randy Hudson
Sent: September 15, 2005 4:39 PM
To: General development mailing list of the Eclipse project.
Subject: RE: [eclipse-dev] Is there any interest in a committers forum?

I think you're on to something useful. There is definitely a lack of coordination in areas such as build, testing, and performance, which is something all project teams could collaborate on.
However, this mailing list is for the "Eclipse Project", which as the name implies (tongue-in-cheek) is just the core SDK and not all Eclipse projects/committers.
BTW, why aren't GEF and other projects shown on the eclipsezone forum?  Is Eclipsezone part of Eclipse.org now, or am I thinking of something else?

Randy

"Ed Burnette" <Ed.Burnette@xxxxxxx>
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09/15/2005 12:42 PM

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Subject	RE: [eclipse-dev] Is there any interest in a committers forum?

My thinking was that people were almost afraid to post to the main eclipse.org committer forum (this list) because it goes out to so many (1000+) people. My worry is that committers can become siloed into their own project-dev forums or user forums and lose opportunities to collaborate and discover common goals and interests.

But in any case, the previous proposal is voted down.

New proposal: Same as before except gate it (2-way) to the eclipse-dev moderated mailing list (this list).

The value add would be that you could read and post in a threaded web-based view that supports attachments, watches, profiles, and RSS/Atom. See http://www.eclipsezone.com/java/forums/f18122.html for an example of what it would look like. That particular forum is gated to the user newsgroup eclipse.platform. (btw, http://www.eclipsezone.com/java/forums/c5605.html shows all the newsgroups currently gated (with Foundation approval); we're adding more on demand so send me an email if you want to use one that's not there).


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Billy Biggs
>
>   -1, as it wouldn't help encourage anyone to contribute, imho. it just
> further divides the already artificial committer vs non-committer
> distinction.


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> From: Jeff McAffer
>
> What is the advantage of this over the existing lists that are NOT going to
> be paired with this new forum?  The concern here is fragmentation.  If
> eclipse.org is missing committer facilities, they should be added there.
>
>So I am a -1 pending obvious value add.
>
>Jeff
>
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