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     On 4/7/2015 4:40 AM, Wim Jongman wrote: 
     
    
      Cool Scott, great work. I was working on this icon
        as the endpoint icon. 
        
         
       
     
     
    Hi Wim.   Although I like this icon, and think that we should
    keep/add it so that we can use it in the future, I would like to
    stick with the existing Endpoint icon for Mars for the following
    reasons: 
     
    1) To my eye, what I've got for Endpoint visually stands out better
    than the above, and for first release I would like to have something
    that stands out relative to the other parts of Eclipse tooling. 
    2) AFAIK, we are introducing the concept of an 'Endpoint' (in the
    Remote Service/RSA context), and I would like to establish that
    visually and conceptually.  I think that the 'E' in the existing
    icon helps do that (gives a textual as well as visual reminder of
    what it's representing). 
     
    I would, however, like to add this icon to our set, and then we
    could use it for other RSA concepts when we need it.  Would that be
    OK with you? 
     
    Also...if there are people that are more fascile than I am (probably
    all of you) with Gimp/image editor, and want to improve/do more
    anti-aliasing/improve the icons that are there I would welcome
    that.  After spending time with Gimp over the weekend, I just don't
    have the eye and Gimp editing skills to do that effectively for
    icons. 
     
    Now...about the build...although I appreciate your work on the build
    today, I think it might be easier for releng and deployment if I
    were to simply move/contribute all of what's currently in the
    project at [1] into the already-existing EF bundle: 
    org.eclipse.ecf.remoteservices.ui.   Then we wouldn't need a new
    project/build/repo, it would simply be there in subsequent releases
    (Mars).  Also, then we could have this new view in the new Remote
    Services perspective by default, and know that it was there without
    further installation by users...other than installing what we have
    now.   How would that be? 
     
    OTOH, it might be useful to create a new feature to contain *just*
    the Remote Service tooling (and dependencies), so that consumers
    could install (into Eclipse) *just* the Remote Services tooling
    parts of ECF.   I'm currently torn somewhat about that, however,
    because the way it is now maybe just fine...i.e. if people install
    ECF sdk into Eclipse (not a huge install at all relative to most
    other projects), then they will get this RS
    perspective/views/tooling along with the Communications perspective
    and other stuff.  Actually, now that I think about it I think we
    would have to do a fair amount of feature refactoring to do this
    (allow only the install of RS tooling), so I think that must/should
    wait for another release. 
     
    To summarize:  my proposal is that I move everything from the github
    project over to org.eclipse.ecf.remoteservices.ui, and then we won't
    need another releng/build/project, etc, and we can use the existing
    feature structure for Mars.    I apologize for not stating this
    clearly prior to your work on the releng over the last day. 
     
    Scott 
     
     
  
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