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Re: [ecf-dev] shared editing design thought

Hi Ken,

Ken Gilmer wrote:
From a usability perspective it seems like a great step forward. The only concerns I can think if are potential latency issue when generating the contact list.

Yes, this could be an issue...although since the contact list is cached locally (as per the IRosterManager), I'm expecting the performance can be made sufficient (no network access to get current contacts/presence state).

Scott


Thanks
-ken

On Oct 27, 2007, at 7:07 PM, Scott Lewis <slewis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Folks,

We at BEA have/will/are doing some work with using ECF to add real-time shared editing to commercial and OS editors...i.e. text editors, structured editors (e.g. java, other langs, xml, etc), graphical editors, and the like.

I was thinking yesterday was that it is typically unnecessarily difficult to setup a sharing/editing session. It usually has to be explicitly done by one or both participants prior to the actual shared editing...and it's often error prone.

This is true also of the existing cola shared editor...the setup of the shared editing session is kind of cumbersome.

I had one thought about how this could be easier...and I thought I would throw it out to the mailing list:

Let's assume that user 'slewis' has a (e.g.) text editor open. At a certain point, they decide that they would like to initiate a shared editing session with another party (e.g. 'codesurgeon'). At that point, 'slewis' has to initiate a shared editing session. What if they simply opened the editor's context menu, and chose 'Share'->codesurgeon...and this initiated a shared editing session with codesurgeon. This begs the question, though...where does the 'Share'->codesurgeon menu come from? My answer: Using Eclipse's new dynamic menu contribution mechanisms, it could be dynamically created from the ECF Contacts/buddy list. That is, when the user chose 'Share' it could produce a menu hierarchy that corresponded to the entries in the contacts list (whatever the active ones happened to be at that moment)...allowing the initiator to choose the target user for the shared editing session. The Eclipse menu contribution mechanisms should allow this (i.e. dynamic creation of hierarchical menus...plus the ability to retarget actions), and ECF allows programmatic access to the buddy list via IPresenceContainerAdapter.getRosterManager(). Further, it would be possible to add such a thing in a new plugin (rather than modifying the existing editor's code) to increase separation of concerns.

Any thoughts/comments about this approach?

Scott







Let's also




That is, between...perhaps one way on how to setup a 'session for shared editing' (between 2 participants is initial focus...2+ will probably be for later).


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