| Guys, 
 It would be interesting to get feedback on using
    https://wiki.eclipse.org/Setup-Eclipse.  There is currently a
    project I've configured that sets up the entire source for
    the platform SDK.  No doubt that's a little over aggressive, but a
    great proof of concept and a basis for producing smaller subsets for
    individual platform projects that would include the tests for those
    projects.   If someone configured an E4.setup, there would be no
    need for documentation (which always gets out of date) and no need
    for long manual recipes that take hours to execute and almost
    inevitably result in a workspace with errors, all of which lead to
    very few willing to take the time and effert, with the end result
    that you end up with few high quality contributions for your
    project.  One good starting point for authoring your own *.setup is
    to install the Development Environment Setup feature from
    https://hudson.eclipse.org/cdo/job/emf-cdo-integration/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/
    in an IDE you already have configured manually and using the wizards
    to create an initial configuration; you can test launch the
    installer from that IDE...
 
 Another approach is to install the CDO Release Engineering project
    using the installer.  The resulting IDE has the entire source code
    for the tool itself.  It also contains all the project's we've
    manually configured so you have a significant number of
    highly-functional working examples as a starting point.
 
 Note that Eike is working on an improved replacement for the
    Buckminster-based materialization task.  The current Buckminster
    task works well, except that it doesn't take package imports into
    account so you end up needing to specify additional root component
    IDs to ensure the appropriate bundles are materialized in the target
    platform.  You'll see that in the current *.setup examples.
 
 The bottom line is that we should see an end to these horrible
    recipe wiki pages that are always out of date because we should not
    expect our contributors to work like monkeys just to reach the
    starting line for an initial contribution.  Our contributors have
    better things to do with their time, i.e., making actual
    contributions.  If we treat them like monkeys we should expect a lot
    of hooting and food throwing.
 
 If anyone needs help, we're more than happy to provide it. It's high
    time for the shoe maker to make shoes for his children.
 
 Regards,
 Ed
 
 
 
 On 11/02/2014 2:10 AM, Paul Webster
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