Re: [e4-dev] e4 tools build moving to Luna?

[David M Williams <david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Sorry if this is obvious to others, but
is this tool intended to be a "delivery" of the "e4/sdk"
product? In the sense it has APIs and/or could be extended? Or it is intended
for use only by "Eclipse committers" in making Eclipse IDE? 

I ask since the "requirements"
are quite a bit different for the two. If simply a "releng tool"
it could be provided similar to how we deliver the "releng tools"
from Platform (which provides copyright tools, and a validator for MANIFEST
and POM versions (and some old cvs 'release' tools not used much these
days). While the description is needs improvement, I think it's pretty
clear it is not intended to provide API or be extended (therefore "compatibility",
etc. is not considered that important ... we tell people to use the same
version built with their dev. environment. 

But, if meant to be extendable, and
provide API, etc, then there are higher criteria. 

I should add, it would be "hard"
to "build with the SDK" because it depends on some emf components
(such as emf.edit.ui?) which is not apart of the "base" EMF we
get "early" from EMF. 

Hope these comments help inform the
final decision. 




From:      
 John Arthorne <John_Arthorne@xxxxxxxxxx>
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mailing list <e4-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>, 
Date:      
 01/19/2014 11:11 AM
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   Re: [e4-dev]
e4 tools build moving to Luna?
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If  parts of the e4 tools graduated
into PDE, then all active contributors to those tools would be granted
PDE commit rights as part of the graduation/restructuring. We did the same
thing with commit rights on other parts of e4 that graduated into the platform.
So I don't think commit rights will be a problem at all. It does of course
require active committers to keep maintaining it wherever it ends up.

John 



From:        Lars
Vogel <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxx> 
To:        E4
Project developer mailing list <e4-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>, 
Date:        01/18/2014
05:02 AM 
Subject:        Re:
[e4-dev] e4 tools build moving to Luna? 
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I personally like that we can adjust the tooling as needed. PDE seems very
inactive at the moment.

But test, better Javadoc and fixing the outstanding bugs is good in general, no matter if the tools get officially released or not, so no need to hold such activities of.

Best regards, Lars

Am 18.01.2014 09:40 schrieb "Wim Jongman" <wim.jongman@xxxxxxxxx>:
There are things missing in the model editor and in the tooling in general. Most notably unit tests, javadoc and user documentation. We need to fix these before a release can be considered.  

I am also happy to join a dedicated team that tackles this. So that makes two. Who wants to join us?

Regards,

Wim


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