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Re: [e4-dev] Themes for Eclipse 4

Tom,

I totally agree with your suggestion, but it would be great if the default icon set looks good on both light and dark backgrounds.

Kai

> -----Original Message-----
> From: e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Tom Schindl
> Sent: Freitag, 13. Juli 2012 08:30
> To: e4-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [e4-dev] Themes for Eclipse 4
> 
> Well potentially icons even have to change based on the theme, so there's
> bit of a mismatch between theme and application model in this regard.
> 
> So i think the icons defined in the model can only act as defaults and can be
> overwritten by CSS-Definitions:
> 
> #save {
>   image: url();
> }
> 
> #save:disabled {
>   image: url();
> }
> 
> #save:hover {
>   image: url();
> }
> 
> Tom
> 
> Am 13.07.12 08:03, schrieb Toedter, Kai:
> >> 2012/7/12 Gerald Rosenberg <gerald@xxxxxxxxxx>:
> >>> The backgrounds of these icons are transparent.  The white/lite
> >>> colored pixels are non-transparent artifacts.  All that is needed is
> >>> a bit of pixel editing to remove them.
> > The only way to have a consistent icon set that looks good on dark and light
> backgrounds is to provide icons with a real alpha channel. 100% transparency
> per background pixel, like we have it now, does not work in terms of a
> professional look. PNG supports this pretty good. But this would lead to a
> redesign of ALL icons used in Eclipse.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Kai
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:e4-dev-
> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> On Behalf Of Lars Vogel
> >> Sent: Freitag, 13. Juli 2012 07:15
> >> To: E4 Project developer mailing list
> >> Subject: Re: [e4-dev] Themes for Eclipse 4
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> sounds easy enough.
> >>
> >> @Sopot can you please open a bug for that?
> >>
> >> Best regards, Lars
> >>
> >> 2012/7/12 Gerald Rosenberg <gerald@xxxxxxxxxx>:
> >>> The backgrounds of these icons are transparent.  The white/lite
> >>> colored pixels are non-transparent artifacts.  All that is needed is
> >>> a bit of pixel editing to remove them.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Gerald
> >>>
> >>> In article
> <CAOeJ3wvxszE+KWVVAeAtNOqCU5KYXTYzzwD0tz1=tESNvpu-
> >>> 8Q@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxx says...
> >>> |
> >>> |Hi Sopot,
> >>> |
> >>> |but if all icons would have transparent background, this would work,
> right?
> >>> |
> >>> |Best regards, Lars
> >>> |
> >>> |2012/7/12 Sopot Çela <sopotcela@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >>> |> Hi Lars,
> >>> |>
> >>> |> I'm not sure of the technical effort to achieve this but I
> >>> |> thought It should be brought up also as it risked to be frogotten
> >>> |> through the CSS issues. IMHO any dark theme needs other icons as
> >>> |> the white pixels in the edges (on black
> >>> |> background) really interfere with the slick look of the rest of the
> theme.
> >>> |>
> >>> |> Sopot
> >>> |>
> >>> |> On Jul 12, 2012, at 20:41, Lars Vogel <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> |>
> >>> |> Hi Sopot,
> >>> |>
> >>> |> is it "just" an issue of replacing the icons or is it also a
> >>> |> technical issue?
> >>> |>
> >>> |> Best regards, Lars
> >>> |>
> >>> |> 2012/7/12 Sopot Çela <sopotcela@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> |>>
> >>> |>>  I just tried the theme and think that Roger's concern regarding
> >>> |>> (quote)
> >>> |>>
> >>> |>> - Is there a way to get PNG icons with alpha transparency
> >>> |>> instead of those with the white pixels around them?
> >>> |>>
> >>> |>> should also be tracked as they show various glitches in dark
> >>> |>> themes. I guess the closing icon X in parts also suffers from
> >>> |>> the same
> >> problem.
> >>> |>>
> >>> |>> Maybe Roger can confirm that better than me.
> >>> |>>
> >>> |>> Sopot
> >>> |>>
> >>> |>>
> >>> |>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Lars Vogel
> >>> |>> <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> wrote:
> >>> |>>>
> >>> |>>> Hello Mike,
> >>> |>>>
> >>> |>>> as suggested by you I opened a separate bugs for the styling of
> >>> |>>> the table
> >>> |>>> header: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=384906
> >>> |>>>
> >>> |>>> I keep track of all related CSS styling bugs, I suggest to have
> >>> |>>> a master bug which keeps a reference to all related bugs. I
> >>> |>>> opened for
> >> this purpose:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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