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Boris Bokowski wrote:
A couple of comments:
Thanks for taking the time to comment.
1. We don't need to pick a "winner" or a "loser".
2. Fragmentation is not good, in the long term.
I think we at some point must choose which technology is prefered or
endorsed, to avoid confusion. There was a question about this at the
webinar, and I bet there will be questions at ESE, too (both XWT and TM
talks were accepted). There's nothing preventing the "loser" from
continuing the development in some other context. So there is really no
loss as seen from the community, since both will be available, and
that's what counts, isn't it?
The differences between TM and XWT are due to different opinions about
what problem we are solving and hence the requirements of the
technology. Most seem to agree that we need declarative UI in e4, but
few are explicit about what that entails. I wish others, like the
Alcatel Lucents representative, could say something about what
characteristics the technology should have.
3. Real clients are more important than theoretical advantages of one
technology over the other. Based on my limited knowledge on who uses
which framework, Wazaabi seems to be ahead of both TM and XWT at this
point, but I'd love to be proven wrong...
As I mentioned in a previous post, I almost chose to work on Wazaabi,
because it is based on the same idea and was there first. However, I
wanted to understand the technical issues, so I started on TM instead.
Then I contributed it to e4, to show the advantages of the approach of a
live, EMF-based UI model. If Wazaabi had been contributed to e4 at that
time, I probably would have supported it instead, since the
characteristics of the technology (live and EMF-based) is more important
than it being mine.
Perhaps a merge of Wazaabi and TM is the best approach, if Moïses is
interested?
4. A few of the comments in this discussion came across as being
protective of your respective technology, and not as cooperative as I
would like them to be.
I'm sorry to hear that, but I understand that I seem so. I've really
tried hard to avoid being/seeming protective. However, the approaches
seem pretty incompatible, so I've never considered it realistic that we
join forces. Instead, I've tried to provide reasons for my choice(s)
that could be judged by others.
Btw, there will be an e4 Symposium at Eclipse Summit Europe
(Ludwigsburg, Germany, October 27-29):
http://www.eclipsecon.org/summiteurope2009/sessions/sessions?id=981
Hope to see you there!
I'm looking forward to it!
Hallvard
P.S. Good night, it's almost tomorrow here in GMT+2.
