[e4-dev] notes from yesterday's call

[Boris Bokowski <Boris_Bokowski@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Below are the topics we talked about yesterday during the e4 call. I basically copied what ended up on the whiteboard. If you'd like more verbose meeting notes, we need volunteers who can produce them.

Thanks!
Boris

• Goal: ship e4 SDK in summer 2010
  • Consisting of
    • Everything in 3.6
    • + JSDT
    • + EMF Tools
    • Styled with CSS
    • Running new resources model
  • While getting rid of complex 3.x internals
  • 99% compatibility (best effort given the resources we have)
  • Be able to run 3.x workbench JUnit tests
  • At least one, better some components in the e4 SDK need to be written against only new e4 API
• Building community is still important
• How can we make it compelling to adopt e4?
  • Programming model: has to be comprehensive
  • Easier to program
  • Do new things
    • Compare editor with two real embedded editors?
    • New look by graphic designer using CSS
    • Replace use of UI Forms with web UI components
    • Editor toolbar in editor area
    • New "shape" to SDK
    • Same components, different shape for RCP or IDE
• Compatibility
  • Get rid of fragment
  • Fork?
  • Deprecate presentation API in 4.0 stream?
• Is the flexible resources work going into 3.6?
  • Szymon to look at
• How to get components in early to find problems?
  • when is the earliest we think we can put e4 on the release train?
  • staging
    • sanity test by us
    • component owners sniff test
    • component owners full test pass
• Do we ship two declarative toolkits, XWT and TM?