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| Re: [e4-dev] [releng] Next week is 0.9 M4 week | 
+1 on not doing the usual Eclipse end game for e4 0.9.  We should be building a tech preview, not a stable product.
Boris
e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 06/08/2009 02:05:33 PM:
> 
> >Since we are approaching our 0.9 M4 (feature freeze) next week 
> 
> I'd like us to discuss whether we believe we should be applying the 
> normal Eclipse shutdown pattern to e4.  That pattern is in place to 
> ensure that we ship a stable framework which products can, with high
> confidence, build on.  We purposely trade innovation for stability. 
> 
> However, e4 is an incubator. As such, its goal *is* innovation with 
> no product level promises of stability. 
> 
> I believe this shutdown process will prematurely force us to 
> converge on what we basically have today. Those of us working on 3.x
> are only now able to move our focus to e4, just in time for there to
> be no time. 
> 
> My specific suggestion is to eliminate RC3 and RC4, moving the two 
> weeks to the front, so M4 in +2 weeks, etc.  That should give us 
> some period of stabilization to ensure say we don't bust the demos 
> in the 11th hour, but still provide some runway to do new work. 
> 
> I am open to other suggestions.  Your thoughts? 
> 
> Kevin 
> 
> 
> 
> Paul Webster <pwebster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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> 06/08/2009 01:08 PM 
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> [e4-dev] [releng] Next week is 0.9 M4 week
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> http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=eclipse.e4
> 
> Since we are approaching our 0.9 M4 (feature freeze) next week and I
> have platform downloads for win32, linux gtk, and macosx cocoa (all
> x86) I've started I builds every night.  Because they are I-builds you
> will need to release changes to see them in the nightly build:
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/E4/Builds
> 
> I'll be updating our builds to comply with
> http://wiki.eclipse.
> org/Development_Resources/HOWTO/Conforming_Incubation_Branding.
> I'll try to announce any changes on the e4-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx mailing
> list.
> 
> I'll be posting a couple of updates and reminders over the next 2
> weeks.   It's important that we act on them sooner, rather than later
> so we are in good shape for next week.
> 
> PW
> 
> 
> -- 
> Paul Webster
> Hi floor.  Make me a sammich! - GIR
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