| Re: [e4-dev] Introduction::UFace, PMF & Flowr |
Jim van Dam wrote:
Next week I'll be skiing (Switzerland not Austria, sorry Tom), but after that I am willing to travel to any of the four countries or welcome you in the Netherlands before EclipseCon to get things kicked off.
I will not be able to go to EclipseCon, but I would be very happy to attend a "local" European Declarative UI meeting later this year.
And Jim, Norway is a wonderful place to ski, although it is still a bit early with short days. What kind of skiiing do you do, downhill or snowboard?
Hallvard
Jim-----Original Message----- From: Tom Schindl [mailto:tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: maandag 9 februari 2009 15:05 To: Robert Wloch Cc: jim van dam; tom herrmann; helmar behrends Subject: Re: [e4-dev] Introduction::UFace, PMF & Flowr Hi All, It looks like we are all located in Western Europe (Netherlands, Germany, Austria) so we should maybe be able to arrange a meeting somewhere in the middle (presumably after EclipseCon). In fact even when looking at the greater circle of Declarative UI people it looks Europe rules in this area: - Hallvard Trætteberg - Norway - Olivier Moïses - France - Angelo Zerr - France - Yves Yang - France - Jim Van Dam - Netherlands - Tom Herrmann - Germany (assumed) - Helmar Behrends - Germany (assumed) - Robert Wloch - Germany - Tom Schindl - Austria At least Jim, Olivier, Yves and me are at EclipseCon and can meet there (I'll arrive Friday evening and stay at Hilton). We could meet somewhere in the middle to kick off the collabortation - I think we need to meet in person to get the collaboration started. I have no problem traveling to Germany/Netherlands/... but you could also come to Austria if you'd like to. Tom Robert Wloch schrieb:Tom, Jim, I'm glad you both see the same opportunity on collaboration here!Unfortunately I won't be at the EclipseCon and it won't be possible for me to attend either, as I'll be at the MDD&PL 2009 in the very same week. So what's your suggestion for a get together? I'll also CC Tom Herrmann and Helmar Behrends from the Flowr team, as they'd be interested in a common talk, too.Cheers, Rob ----- "Jim van Dam" <jim.van.dam@xxxxxxxx> wrote:Hello Rob, Rob> > I've taken a look at UFace and PMF during the past days and bothinterest me a lot. To me it appears as if both projects are anaturalsymbiosis.Tom> Are you going to be on EclipseCon? If yes we should all meetlikeonESE and talk how we could collaborate.Completely agree with you and Tom and see a lot of opportunity for collaboration. PMF is aiming at UI modeling/transformation from PIM to a diversesetof target platforms. My personal UI target platform experience using PMF is with Swing, ASP.Net/SharePoint and JSF so together we can cover a broad spectrum. Looking forward to meeting you all at EclipseCon. I arrive onSaturdayand I believe there are different BOFS proposed for UI related subjects so lots of opportunity to see how we can arrange joint efforts. Regards, Jim-----Original Message----- From: e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]OnBehalf Of Tom Schindl Sent: zondag 8 februari 2009 22:09 To: E4 Project developer mailing list Subject: Re: [e4-dev] Introduction Hi Rob, As the project lead of UFaceKit I'm always open for discussion and collobaration. I agree about that it looks like we 3 would we a perfect match. Asyoumaybe already found out UFaceKit has quite a simple concept bydefininga set of interfaces and a factory to create the concreteimplementation.Currently we have first class support for: - SWT & JFace - QT Second class support for: - Swing (in fact only need to implement the styleing stuff) Incubation work for: - Native GWT - SmartGWT First ideas on: - Draw2d - Android I'd welcome any feedback and input (I desperately search forskilledSwing-Devs) as you can imagine is hard to find for someone like me. Are you going to be on EclipseCon? If yes we should all meet likeonESE and talk how we could collaborate. Maybe I also need to mentionthatthere's no fulltime coder working on UFaceKit (we are all doing the stuff in our spare time!). Tom Robert Wloch schrieb:Angelo, Ed, and all others thanks for your responses. I've taken a look at UFace and PMF during the past days and bothinterest me a lot. To me it appears as if both projects are anaturalsymbiosis.In the team I was working in from 2006 until 2008 we weredevelopingsomething very similar to the PMF combined with UFace, except that"ourUFace" consisted of a Swing and an AJAX renderer only. Additionallythelayout of our GUI was declared via XML files, catchword"declarativeUI". Currently, my old team is recoding our first shot and made itopensource: http://www.flowr.org. I believe these three parties (UFace,PMF,Flowr) should talk with each other soon. ;-)Anyways, I'd be glad to contribute my share of labor and knowledgetoPMF and UFace. Any help on how to get on board is greatlyappreciated!Cheers, Rob _______________________________________________ e4-dev mailing list e4-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/e4-dev-- B e s t S o l u t i o n . a t EDV Systemhaus GmbH------------------------------------------------------------------------ tom schindl leiter softwareentwicklung/CSO------------------------------------------------------------------------ eduard-bodem-gasse 8/3 A-6020 innsbruck phone ++43 512 935834 _______________________________________________ e4-dev mailing list e4-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/e4-dev_______________________________________________ e4-dev mailing list e4-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/e4-dev-- B e s t S o l u t i o n . a t EDV Systemhaus GmbH ----------------------------------------------------------------------- - tom schindl leiter softwareentwicklung/CSO ----------------------------------------------------------------------- - eduard-bodem-gasse 8/3 A-6020 innsbruck phone ++43 512 935834_______________________________________________ e4-dev mailing list e4-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/e4-dev