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RE: [dsdp-tm-dev] TM M5 done
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Hi Xuan,
 
In my opinion, the "Experimental" tag that was visible for 
the telnet runtime in M4 was an erroneous left-over from earlier 
days.
 
Telnet has left incubation state very long ago and plugin / 
feature versions are currently at 1.2 / 2.0 / 2.2.
Anna has recently invested quite a bit of work into making 
Terminals as well as shell processes work over telnet.
For TM 3.1 I'm confident that we can call telnet a 
supported part of our offering -- perhaps the only missing bit at the moment is 
making the login procedure (connectorservice) more robust, see bug 
194473 and bug 251484. 
Anna, could you commit working on these for M6 or M7? 
 
I do 
acknowledge the fact that removing the downloads that you got used to was not 
announced sufficiently.
If you 
think that you need them for M5, I can re-create them manually for 
M5.
 
But in 
the longer run, I see that all Eclipse projects are moving towards fewer 
downloads since that's what the majority of the Community wants. They want to 
get simple all-in-one packages rather than having to do multiple downloads from 
a confusing page with lots of options. I think that as product 
builders, it is your responsibility to pick the features that you need out of 
such an all-in-one download -- or delete what you do not 
need.
 
Please 
let me know if you think I should manually create those legacy ZIPs. We can also 
discuss the longer term strategy, but I must say that my opinion is pretty 
strong so I'm likely not easily swayed :-)
 
Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical 
Staff, Wind River
Target Management Project 
Lead, DSDP PMC Member
 
 
  
  
Hi Martin, 
Thanks for the information. 
For our internal IBM Eclipse project, we expect the 
  downloads are coming from our Eclipse mirror site.   So your suggestion 
  may not be a good solution for us. 
I checked with Dave D, Dave M, and Kevin, and we all agreed that telnet 
  plugin should not be included in RSE-runtime.zip package since it is still in 
  experimental state.  Could you please separate it out from 
  RSE-rumtime.zip file?  Thanks. 
Thanks,
Xuan Chen,  Problem Determination Tools for IBM 
  i
(905) 413-3769 T/L 
  313-3769
xuanchen@xxxxxxxxxx
  
    
    
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Can't you just unzip the runtime-zip and delete whatever you 
  don't like? 
A script is as 
  simple as 
  
  unzip RSE-runtime-*.zip 
  for x in telnet terminal ; do 
    rm -rf 
  eclipse/features/*${x}* 
  
    rm -rf eclipse/plugins/*${x}* 
  done 
  zip -a 
  -r RSE-runtime-for-xuan.zip eclipse 
  
  
The combined zip isn't anything 
  different than the contents of the runtime-* you mention plus telnet. 
  
Terminal has been a sub-feature of 
  runtime for a while already, and was eliminated as a separate download 4 weeks 
  ago (or probably more). 
  
BTW, for galileo there are efforts to even 
  further reduce the number of downloads (and go with a single archived update 
  site aka p2 repository). See the cross-project mailing list archives. 
  
  
Cheers, 
-- 
  
Martin Oberhuber, Senior 
  Member of Technical Staff, Wind River 
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member 
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm 
  
  
  
  From: Xuan Chen [mailto:xuanchen@xxxxxxxxxx] 
  
Sent: Donnerstag, 12. Februar 2009 18:44
To: Oberhuber, 
  Martin
Cc: David Dykstal; David McKnight; Kevin J 
  Doyle
Subject: Fw: [dsdp-tm-dev] TM M5 done
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Hi 
  Martin, 
I've 
  noticed that for 3.1 M5 download page, there is no section for Client Runtime 
  Binaries any more (in M4, there was). 
Kevin pointed me a link to this bug: 
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=263189:   Reduce 
  the number of downloads. 
It seems to me because of the fix for this bug, we need to use 
  RSE-runtime-3.1M5.zip instead of our individual client runtime zips we droped 
  to our IBM project.  I checked with the project lead for IBM internal 
  project, and he mentioned as long as there is no new code than before, we 
  should be fine.  But if there are new contents, then there will be quite 
  a lot legal implications we need to resolve. 
  
I checked this 
  RSE-runtime-3.1M5.zip, and found out it contains both terminal and telnet. 
   But we did not include those in our internal drop before. 
    
(We only 
  included: 
RSE-runtime-core-3.1M4.zip 
  
RSE-runtime-dstore-3.1M4.zip 
  
RSE-runtime-ftp-3.1M4.zip 
  
RSE-runtime-local-3.1M4.zip 
  
RSE-runtime-ssh-3.1M4.zip 
  
) 
I was wondering if you can create a separate 
  download which only include the contents of the five zip files I mentioned 
  above? 
Thanks,
Xuan Chen,  Problem Determination Tools for IBM 
  i
(905) 413-3769 T/L 313-3769
xuanchen@xxxxxxxxxx
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Hi all, 
  
 
the TM 3.1M5 build is available 
  for insiders (not yet public): 
http://download.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/downloads/drops/S-3.1M5-200902081925/ 
 
I added the 
  Team/Synchronization integration. Since that requires Java 1.5, the 
  org.eclipse.rse.importexport plugin now requires Java 1.5. I also switched to 
  using individual source bundles (as a Galileo Requirement). 
 
Give it a try before I 
  make it public! 
 
Thanks, 
-- 
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, 
  Wind River 
Target Management 
  Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member 
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm 
  
 
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