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RE: [dsdp-tm-dev] Proposed Website Changes
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Hi Kevin,
 
Great suggestions, over all. Thanks for your engagement on 
this. Some details:
 
+1 for making our frontpage smaller (ideally 1280x1024) and 
more sexy
     - Add 
Screenshot
     - Improved "What it is" 
text
     - Offload "about" info into a 
good About / learn more... link
     - Offload downloads / release info 
into a good "Downloads" link
         - Note 
that we need to keep some links for downloadable documents vs. downloadable 
software
     
- Combine what's new and events
         - I'd 
still like to keep all the links about presentation material from previous 
conferences etc.
           
But these might need to be offloaded into a separate page (like "Buzz" on 
RAP)
 
+1 for the reduced Eclipse.org header like on RAP and 
Mylyn
     - Note that this might actually 
just be a different Phoenix Theme:
     - Note that the smaller layout 
sacrifices the EclipseLIVE, EPIC and Planeteclipse links on top 
right
+1 for 
a good bugs page, it can be based on what we already have 
here:
-1 for 
fully custom navbar on the left. We should better be based on the Common 
Navbar,
    and if that one is not good then 
discuss with Bjorn / Process people / Phoenix people
    a better common Navbar. I'd like to 
see more consistency in the sites from different projects.
    - Note that even when we are based 
on the Common Navbar we can still customize it easily
    - Based on Common Navbar we'll 
automatically pick up any REQUIRED changes
    - Add only what we think we'd like 
to add (so no more tm-log.csv link)
+1 for 
revamping about / getting started pages
     - perhaps even separate 
"getting started for users" vs. "getting started for 
integrators"
       where the latter 
would point to documents, APIDoc, tutorials, 
...
 
 
Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical 
Staff, Wind River
Target Management Project 
Lead, DSDP PMC Member
 
 
  
  
Hi all,
As Martin mentioned 
  at the meeting this week I'd like to spruce up the website a bit.
I'm 
  going to compare the site to the Mylyn/RAP sites as I believe those are the 
  best looking project sites.
Mylyn: http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn/
RAP: 
  http://www.eclipse.org/rap/
Here the proposed changes:
1. 
   Change the layout used to be like the Mylyn/RAP sites.
--> This 
  layout gives us more room as the header is reduced for Eclipse, which 
  currently takes up a lot of space.
2.  The main page should be 
  reworked.  Take a look at the Mylyn/RAP sites.
--> We should have 
  an image that can show off as much of the product as possible.  May need 
  to be the Remote Systems View, so people can actually see what it is. 
   Clicking on the image could take you to a full screenshot showing the 
  whole perspective.
--> Have links to Getting Started, Downloads, and 
  Demos
--> Demos (Screencasts) would be nice to have showing off the 
  basics and could add more demos over time showing more advanced features. 
   Like how to properly setup an EFS project. 
--> Provide a short description of what TM is and a 
  link to the About page for more information
--> Combine What's New and 
  Events into News and display it in a table like we have now for 
  Events.
--> Removing the Quick Links and Getting Started div's. 
  
--> Main idea is try to keep this page as 
  short as possible and grab people's attention.  If it doesn't have a 
  scrollbar on 1280x1024 resolution that would be ideal.
3.  Create 
  a Bugs page.
--> Instead of having a link to all open bugs have a page 
  dedicated to Bug queries.
--> At the top have a link to open a bug and a 
  link to the FAQ for what to include in a bug report.
--> Below that have 
  specific queries for All Bugs, Blocker/Critical/Major/Normal bugs, 
  Minor/Trivial, and one for Enhancements.  We can break this up further 
  into RSE/Terminal bugs.  This way users/extenders can see we have a lot 
  of minor/trivial/enhancement bugs. 
4. Navigation Bar Changes
--> 
  Instead of using the default navigation bar I'd like to create a custom one. 
   This way we can get rid of the dead Integrators link =)
--> The 
  way I see the Nav Bar is as follows.  This goes against the current 
  Eclipse project requirements though as the Information about TM link is 
  suppose to be the top item.  A Bug is open requesting to change the 
  project requirements, as the nav bar as it is now doesn't make sense to me. 
   Bug #216474 ( https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=216474 
  ).
Target Management -- Links to main page
   Information 
   --- Goes to the Information about TM page that was introduced recently. 
    ( http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project_summary.php?projectid=dsdp.tm 
  )
   About  -- Bring back our old About page that the link 
  was removed to recently
   Team -- Bring back the team page link 
  that was removed recently.
   Plan - Plan for the next 
  release. 
    Presentations - 
  Links to ppt and information about past/upcoming presentations. 
  
    Demos - If we have the time to 
  create the demo's mentioned above having this link would be good.
  
   Wiki - A link to the main wiki page as it's no longer on the Main page. 
   This makes it easier to move around and still get to the wiki.
  
   Legal - A link to our tm-log.csv file.  This used to be on the old 
  nav bar, but with the recent changes was removed.  If it's not required I 
  don't think we need this one.
Users  
   Getting 
  Started
   Downloads
   Bugs - Link to the new 
  proposed Bug page.
   FAQ (wiki) - Link to our FAQ. 
   Displays wiki in the link to show it will go to a wiki page.
  
   Newsgroup
Contributors
  Contributing (wiki) - A link to our 
  FAQ about the part on Contributing.
  Mailing List
  CVS - A 
  link to how to get the source from CVS.
  Development 
  Tools
  
5.  Go through 
  our About and Getting Started pages cleaning them up.  For example on the 
  Getting Started Page we have:
"The basis of RSE is 
  a former IBM product, for which a slide show is still 
  available. Our plans beyond TM 2.0 are available from the Target Management 
  Project Plan and our 
  Use Cases Document, which 
  covers all areas of interest to us. " 
That is more for the 
  About page. 
6. Look into 
  simplifying the download page.  Maybe create a new page that lists the 
  latest release build and the latest milestone.  Have links to the update 
  site, a direct link to download the SDK, and a link for all downloads for that 
  release/milestone, which takes you to the current download page for a 
  release/milestone. Then at the top/bottom have a link to Archive builds, which 
  takes you to where our Downloads page currently takes you.  Not sure if 
  this will really simplify the process for download though.
Opinions, 
  comments, concerns, or additional changes you think we should 
  make?
Thanks,
Kevin Doyle