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RE: [dsdp-tm-dev] TM Update Site is Confusing - Proposed Changes

Hi Martin,

If the update site is not meant for initial installation why do we advertise it?  I'm assuming it's the update site that is added when TM is installed called "Target Management Updates" which can't be edited or removed.  It sounds like we should have a different update site for installation and advertise that, if I'm not misunderstanding the sites.

In regards to the duplication of features, with "Filter features included in other features on the list" selected the services disappear, but we still have some duplication: Discovery, Unit Tests, Examples, and Remote C/C++ Debugger.   I was also expecting one set of the services to stay and the other to be removed.


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RE: [dsdp-tm-dev] TM Update Site is Confusing - Proposed Changes

Hi Kevin,
the TM update site is not really meant for initial installation, but for
automatic updates. For initial installation, better use the Europa
or Ganymede site -- this will resolve dependency problems.
With respect to duplication of features, your confusion might go away when
you untick the "Show latest version of a feature only" in the Update Manager
Dialog. Then, each of the "TM and RSE {version}" categories will be complete
in the sense that it lists all associated features.
Regarding your specific proposals:
     1. Have only RSE SDK and RSE Runtime.  
That's done on the Europa and Ganymede sites. We cannot do it on the TM site,
because the TM site is also used by Update Manager itself for automatic
consumption. If just the ftp feature, for instance, has been updated from 2.0 to
2.0.1 then users who do "Check for Updates" do not want to install all of the
RSE Runtime just to get the newest FTP feature. That's why we need to be
that granular on that site.
Some of your confusion might go away when you tick "Filter features included
in other features on the list" in your Update Manager Dialog.
    2. Remove the duplication of Services/Remote CDT in 2.0.1 and 2.0.2.  Also the duplication of Discovery across 2.0, 2.0.1 and 2.0.2.
As mentioned above, Update Manager does that for us. All features would be
duplicated if you didn't have "Show lates..." ticked. The ones you mention are
duplicated because they were not changed between the 2.0x releases.
     3. Move Discovery/Remote CDT and perhaps the Terminal to a new update site called Extras.  This will make it much easier for users who just click the root node of the update site, as there won't be any dependency problems.
Multiple update sites are a no-no IMHO because it makes resolving dependencies

even harder. As I said, the TM site is meant for automatic consumption while
the Europa / Ganymede site is for users.
Whate we could do is in additoin to the site.xml file, provide a site-simple.xml
file which only has a filtered list of components. I'm torn, however, what that
filter should be like.
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind River
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
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