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RE: [dsdp-tm-dev] How to delete all connections by the start oftheRSE?
Hello Ines,
 
this sounds like you'd probably want to exchange a persistence
provider such that all connection definitions always come out
of your databases and users can never create, modify or
delete these connections.
 
Is it true that you'd also want to forbid creating, deleting
or modifying connections? What about creating, deleting
or modifying filters?

Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber
Wind River Systems, Inc.
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm

 

From: dsdp-tm-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dsdp-tm-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ines jantzen
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 3:47 PM
To: Target Management developer discussions
Subject: AW: [dsdp-tm-dev] How to delete all connections by the start oftheRSE?

Hi Martin,
 
I agree that it is impolite to delete user connections. But on the other hand it helps highlight our own fresh connections. We are restricting our user to concentrate on the connections that should be worked on. In fact, we have already programmed eclipse so much that it looks like our own system and our users should not have their own staff at all, i.e. some RSE connections of their own. Everything they need is to be created according to our databases while starting.
 
Kind regard, Ines.


 
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Von: "Oberhuber, Martin" <Martin.Oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Gesendet: Donnerstag, den 29. März 2007, 15:24:22 Uhr
Betreff: RE: [dsdp-tm-dev] How to delete all connections by the start oftheRSE?

Hm,
 
but I really don't understand now what you want to do.
 
You want to delete connections on startup. But how would those
connections have been created? Some user must have manually
created them at some time. It doesn't seem a good idea to go
and automatically delete stuff that a user has created at some point.
 
I think I'd understand a little bit better if you would like to hide
the connections (i.e. not show them although they are still
there), but even then this doesn't quite match the spirit of
adopting Open Source that I normally find.
 
Can you explain more?

Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber
Wind River Systems, Inc.
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm

 

From: dsdp-tm-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dsdp-tm-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ines jantzen
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 3:02 PM
To: Target Management developer discussions
Subject: AW: [dsdp-tm-dev] How to delete all connections by the start oftheRSE?

Hello Martin,
 
no not connection types(FTP Only, Linux, SSH Only, Unix, Windows). Yes, I do mean the created connections.
 
The existing RSE connection types are okay and I don't intend to delete them.
 
Thank you for adding my intention into your list. I'm already waiting now.
 
Kind regard, Ines.

----- Ursprüngliche Mail ----
Von: "Oberhuber, Martin" <Martin.Oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
An: Target Management developer discussions <dsdp-tm-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Gesendet: Donnerstag, den 29. März 2007, 14:14:37 Uhr
Betreff: RE: [dsdp-tm-dev] How to delete all connections by the start of theRSE?

Hello Ines,
 
are you talking about connection types (i.e. the selection of
kinds of connections you can create in the new connection wizard)
or actually created connections?
 
My feeling is that if you create a product which does not show
any connection types except your own ones, your users would
never be able to create connections of a type other than your
own, so there would be no need to physically delete any connections.
 
We have it on our plan list to support "Capabilities", a way of
disabling (or hiding) predefined connection types.

Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber
Wind River Systems, Inc.
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm

 

From: dsdp-tm-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dsdp-tm-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ines jantzen
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 1:49 PM
To: Target Management developer discussions
Subject: AW: [dsdp-tm-dev] How to delete all connections by the start of theRSE?

Hello Martin,
 
my project leader needs to display only our own connections after RSE's start. therefore, we must delete all possible connections in the view and create new ones at the very beginning.
 
Kind regard, Ines.

----- Ursprüngliche Mail ----
Von: "Oberhuber, Martin" <Martin.Oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
An: Target Management developer discussions <dsdp-tm-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Gesendet: Donnerstag, den 29. März 2007, 10:54:46 Uhr
Betreff: RE: [dsdp-tm-dev] How to delete all connections by the start of the RSE?

Hello Ines,
 
this is an interesting question.
 
We do have API to programmatically delete connections (in ISystemRegistry).
The question is, when is the right time to call these.
The org.eclipse.startup extension point would be called too early, I think.
 
We have other users, too, who are in need of a kind of "callback" that gets
called when RSE has finished startup. We'll discuss this in an upcoming
meeting.
 
May I ask a little bit about your background in the meantime?
Why do you want to delete connections?
This is an unusual request, since connections are persisted in the
Eclipse Workspace.

Thanks,
--
Martin Oberhuber
Wind River Systems, Inc.
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm

 

From: dsdp-tm-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dsdp-tm-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ines jantzen
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 6:31 PM
To: dsdp-tm-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [dsdp-tm-dev] How to delete all connections by the start of the RSE?

Hello people,
 
I need to develop a plugin so that every time when I start Eclipse, I won't see any connections in RSE remote system view. is it possible with RSE official API without changing anything in opened RSE source code?
 
Kind regard, Ines.

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