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RE: [dsdp-tm-dev] Extending RSE

Hi Sheldon,
 
any linux ftpd should be fine.
In case it's not (unlikely), it's not too hard adding the custom directory listing parser.

Cheers,
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Martin Oberhuber
Wind River Systems, Inc.
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
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From: dsdp-tm-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dsdp-tm-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sheldon Dsouza
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Hi,
                    I did not know about this, i am currently using a  ftpd server on the remote machine which is an x86 linux machine. How can i figure out which ftp server has to be running on the remote machine, and will ftpd work?

Regards,
Sheldon

On 2/12/07, javier.montalvoorus@xxxxxxxxxxx < javier.montalvoorus@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Sheldon,

Can you access and browse successfully your target using an external FTP client ?
The RSE FTP uses the jakarta commons net parser (org.apache.commons.net.ftp.parser) to convert the FTP output into classes, so your server should use a recognised format.
Is your server using any of the Jakarta FTP supported formats (MVS, WindowsNT, OS/2, OS/400, UNIX, VMS) ?

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Hi Martin,

              I have directly utilized the
FTPFileSubSystemConfiguration for the TelnetFileSubsystemConfiguration, after creating a new connection the telnet as well as FTP logs into remote system successfully, but when i browse the files system in the Remote Systems View it returns an empty list. I am currently trying to figure out the problem.

Regards,
Sheldon


On 2/12/07, Sheldon Dsouza <sheldond@xxxxxxxxx > wrote:
Hi Martin,

           I dont think i have to make any changes for FTP, i will be using it as it is. I will be cross compiling a version fo FTP for my target so that i can ftp to it.

Regards,
Sheldon



On 2/12/07, Oberhuber, Martin <Martin.Oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > wrote:
Hi Sheldon,
 
using FTP for the files looks like a good idea. You wouldn't have to write any code or extend FTP in any way, it should work as it is.
 
You would most probably create, by extension point,
  • Your own SystemType ("SheldonSystem")
  • Your own TelnetShellServiceSubsystem (using Telnet Shell Service)
  • Your own SheldonFTPServiceSubsystem (using existing FTPFileSubSystemConfiguration)
So for the files, you just do a new subsystem by extension point, in order to associate the right subsystems with your new system.
But it's re-using the existing class for FTP unchanged.
 
Or do you think you'd have to make any changes for FTP?

Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber
Wind River Systems, Inc.
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member

http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm




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Hi Martin,

           I just wanted to know that if i put FTP support on my target, Then i guess a combination of telnet + FTP should work.
In this case my telnet fileservice will have to just extend the existing FTPFileService, or do i have to add something else.

Regards,
Sheldon

On 2/8/07, David McKnight <dmcknigh@xxxxxxxxxx > wrote:

Hi Sheldon,


There is another alternative for an agent if you don't mind using java on the server-side.  You could use the dstore, which is part of RSE.  To do this, you would need to download the dstore server runtime from the TM RSE download page and put it in a directory on your host.   There the archive needs to be extracted and then the daemon script should be run by an admin before clients can start connecting.


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Hi Sheldon,

 

Usually telnet is used for terminal / shell like connections only, but not for

browsing or transferring files.

 

My first recommendation to you would be to try and get some sort of file

transfer protocol running on your target. There are really really small
servers and agents available.

 

If that's not possible, but your target has some kind of shell that supports

shell commands like "ls", "dir", "chdir", etc. you can implement your own

remote file system browser through telnet, by mapping an RSE IFileService

request like getFiles() by executing such remote shell commands, parsing

the ASCII output and returning IHostFile instances as needed.

 

You'd still have a hard time transferring binary files, though, because the

telnet protocol cannot easily transfer binary data (so when you do e.g.

"cat remoteFile" in order to transfer it to local, this would be unreliable

for binary files). You could try and get around this by running a program

like uuencode / uudecode on the remote side, or having an xyzmodem

server (see
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=165893 ).
 

I hope that helps, and I'm looking forward to hearing about your

progress...

Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber
Wind River Systems, Inc.
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member

http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm



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Hi Martin,

           I am currently using SSH as a blue print for creating the telnet service as you said, but i have come across a problem. In the SSH there is a File service implementation for SFTP, but the targets which i will be connecting to are not going to support protocols like FTP, TFP . So is it possible for me to have RSE for the target where a user can browse the entire target file system using telnet without a file transfer protocol, because i guess protocols like FTP are only used for various operations on files.

Regards,
Sheldon



On 2/6/07, Oberhuber, Martin <
Martin..Oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > wrote:
Hello Sheldon,

 

A Telnet connector service / shell subsystem does not exist yet.

You can basically take the org.eclipse.rse.*.ssh as blueprint for doing it,

and replace the ssh service (based on Jsch) by a Telnet implementation.

 

For a telnet implementation, you can choose from Jakarta Commons Net

(which is already part of RSE), and the implementation in
org.eclipse.tm.terminal/src/org.eclipse.tm.terminal.internal.telnet

(which is discouraged API so I'd rather recommend Commons Net).

 

When you come up with a telnet connector for RSE, we'd appreciate

if you could contribute it under EPL!

Thanks,
--
Martin Oberhuber
Wind River Systems, Inc.
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member

http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm



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Hi,

             I have tried RSE ant it works well for protocols like FTP and SSH. I would like to use Telnet as the underline subsystem does it exist or do i have to extend RSE to support telnet.

             If so how do i exyend RSE to support Telnet protocol?

Regards,
Sheldon

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