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RE: [dsdp-tm-dev] RE: Advanced Remote Launching (was: Is TM/RSE rightfor us?)
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Your suggestions look interesting to work I'm doing as well wrt shared
board lab support. Reserving a shared board seems like something that
might fit in well as a step in a launch.
-Brian Nettleton
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dsdp-tm-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:dsdp-tm-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robert Norton
> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 3:57 AM
> To: Oberhuber, Martin
> Cc: dsdp-tm-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [dsdp-tm-dev] RE: Advanced Remote Launching (was: Is
> TM/RSE rightfor us?)
>
> Hi Martin,
>
> Thanks for your response.
>
> > If you like this idea,
> > please get in touch with us on the dsdp-tm-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > mailing list for further exchange of concrete design ideas.
>
> I do like the idea! Based on your description for a generic launch
> action framework I put together some class diagrams which I
> have posted
> on the wiki (they are linked at the bottom of this page:
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/DSDP/TM/Launching). Does this
> correspond roughly with what you had in mind?
>
> The most interesting bit is probably the method used to
> persist the tree
> of actions into the ILaunchConfiguration. I decided that each
> ILaunchAction implementation should know how to load / save
> itself using
> a given prefix before its configuration keys. This way it ought to be
> possible to flatten an arbitrary tree of ILaunchActions without any
> naming collisions.
>
> ILaunchActionTypes are contributed via an extension point and contain
> all the information necessary to instantiate the corresponding
> ILaunchAction using the GUI, including an
> ILaunchActionConfigurationPanel (second diagram).
>
> There is no RSE dependency except that certain ILaunchActions might be
> implemented using RSE functionality (e.g. a remote shell command
> action).
>
> Any thoughts and suggestions much appreciated.
>
> Robert
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Martin Oberhuber [mailto:martin.oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 15 January 2007 16:21
> > To: Robert Norton; dsdp-tm-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Advanced Remote Launching (was: Is TM/RSE right for us?)
> >
> > Hi Robert,
> >
> > it's great to hear that you want to extend the TM / RSE
> > Launching mechanism, and also think about contributing back
> > your enhancements.
> >
> > As Torkild has already pointed out, adding Shell Operations
> > to a Launch by adding them to the LaunchDelegate "hardcoded"
> > should be fairly easy.
> > If you want to have your shell commands independent of the
> > protocol (ssh, telnet, dstore, or whatever contributed), you
> > might want to consider extending
> > org.eclipse.rse.subsystems.shell.core.model.SimpleCommandOperation .
> >
> > For some sample code that deals with running commands on the
> > remote side, see org.eclipse.rse.examples.tutorial/ShowJarContents
> > as well as the MontaVista ssh processes contribution, which
> > is currently available from Bugzilla at
> > https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=159522
> >
> > With respect to making such shell (or download) actions as
> > part of a Launch generic, we already have a concept for this.
> > The idea is to have an additional tab in the Launch, where
> > you see a list of entries. Each entry is of type
> > ILaunchAction, where implementations of ILaunchAction can be
> > contributed through plugin.xml. Each ILaunchAction brings an
> > associated UI for configuring it.
> > Examples of ILaunchAction could be a
> > RunShellCommandLaunchAction, or a DownloadFileLaunchAction,
> > each of which could use RSE services in turn.
> > The LaunchActionSequencer, which runs one action after the
> > other can even be generic (independent of RSE), just like the
> > LaunchActionManager which would be responsible for persisting
> > the ILaunchAction data into ILaunchConfiguration instances.
> >
> > Unfortunately, this excellent idea isn't currently being
> > implemented due to lack of resources. If you like this idea,
> > please get in touch with us on the dsdp-tm-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > mailing list for further exchange of concrete design ideas.
> > It would be great if you could work in this direction and
> > contribute some code. The online place for more details is at
> > http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/DSDP/TM/Launching
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --
> > Martin Oberhuber
> > Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
> > http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
> >
> >
> > Robert Norton wrote:
> > > Greetings All!
> > >
> > > I've been given the task of adapting Eclipse to the needs of our
> > > developers and have identified that one of our requirements is to
> > > simplify the process of configuring and launching a debug
> > session on
> > > an embedded target (or simulator). Since this is exactly
> > the sort of
> > > thing that TM/RSE is supposed to handle I thought I would
> > give a shout
> > > on this mailing list to see if anyone can offer any suggestions.
> > >
> > > The basic problem is that setting up a debugging
> > environment for us is
> > > much more complicated than the default CDT (+ Zylin
> patches) launch
> > > configuration allows. In particular it might involve
> > starting several
> > > different processes (each with specific options, sometimes
> > on a remote
> > > target) in the correct order and finally connecting a gdb process.
> > >
> > > From scanning the available documentation I get the
> > impression that
> > > TM and RSE provide a basic framework which could be used to
> > automate
> > > much of this, but I'm still unclear on exactly how it could be
> > > achieved. For example might it be possible to create a new debug
> > > configuration type tailored to each of our debugging
> scenarios and
> > > leveraging the RSE functionality? I'm keen to create as general a
> > > framework as possible for starting auxiliary process and
> > would love to
> > > contribute back any code I produce (subject to the
> > agreement of management / legal bods.).
> > >
> > > Does anyone have the slightest idea what I am talking
> about? If so,
> > > can you offer any comments or suggestions?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Robert Norton
> > > DSL Unit, Broadcom UK
> >
> >
>
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