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RE: [dsdp-tm-dev] TM conf. call - notes for 7-Jun-2006
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Hello Michael,
I absolutely agree on all you say.
As you might have noticed, none of the bugs I have
mentioned was filed by our team, they all pre-existed. We see ourselves more as
service providers than actually requiring the EFS things. Therefore, our stance
is that we are ready to help out, but we don't currently have the resources to
drive the EFS moving forward. Still we are keeping an eye on it, and you might
also have noticed the "helpwanted" comment in yesterday's meeting
notes.
Cheers,
Martin
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Martin Oberhuber - WindRiver,
Austria
+43(662)457915-85
Martin,
Thanks for the clarification. I think your stance on
EFS is perfectly reasonable. However, I think it is worthwhile to note that,
in the absence of any input from clients, there is a chance that no EFS work
will occur in 3.3 in the Eclipse Platform. If any of the bugs you have
mentioned matter in any way to your project, you should comment on those bugs.
I'm thinking particularly of bug 134270 since that bug explicitly says that
nothing will occur until input is received from clients but you should comment
on any bug that may impact you.
I
think it is a good thing that you are still going to experiment with EFS and
make this available for other to try. This will at least give you and your
clients an opportunity to evaluate the API and provide feedback to the
Platform Resources and/or UI team.
Michael
"Oberhuber, Martin"
<Martin.Oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Hi Michael,
EFS is being used for resources on the local file
system, but problems start to get visible when the actual filesystems are
remote or in some other way "non standard".
There are UI
problems in the wizards where the actual resource for a project is
selected.
On the tools side
(CDT, ...) basic project creation is supported, but problems are found when it
comes to operations on the files (index generation, classpath, build,
...)
Unable to specify resources in zip filesystem
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=137879
[EFS]
FileSystemContributor API has insuffecient information
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=134270
EFS FTP
Error
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=137878
CDT EFS
Support
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=142092
EFS Zip
File System Example "Collapse Zip File" Error
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=138277
Most of
these bug reports do have patches attached, but they have not been merged in
for Eclipse 3.2 / Callisto. Bottom line of this is, that with Eclipse 3.2 EFS
is not yet ready for product usage, its still in experimental phase. Therefore
we decided that for RSE we can also keep it in experimental phase for our
release.
We are happy to provide our example EFS implementation as a testbed for
developers to experiment with EFS on ssh / sftp or dstore remote connections,
and in fact I think we are going to advertise this with our next milestone.
But we are not going to make EFS support a release plan item.
Cheers,
Martin
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Martin Oberhuber - WindRiver,
Austria
+43(662)457915-85
From: dsdp-tm-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Subject: Re: [dsdp-tm-dev] TM conf.
call - notes for 7-Jun-2006
Martin,
In your meeting notes, you mention EFS bugs that
are preventing you from adopting EFS. Do you have bug numbers for these? As
far as I am aware, there are no major issues with EFS and it is being used as
the file system for all projects in your workspace. Also, my understanding is
that JDT has been migrated to EFS as well. I am not aware of any work in CDT
in this area though.
If you encounter bugs in EFS, please report then the the
Eclipse/Platform/Resources component. If it is more of an issue of the
suitability of EFS for use in your particular scenarios, you may want to open
a discussion of the API in relation to your requriements on the
platform-core-dev mailing list.
Michael
"Oberhuber, Martin"
<Martin.Oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Hello,
the meeting notes for
yesterday's call are now online
at
http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/DSDP/TM/Phone_Meeting_7-Jun-2006
The
next call will be in 4 weeks, July 5 at 9am PST
(1st wednesday of the
month).
Thanks,
Martin
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Martin Oberhuber - WindRiver,
Austria
+43(662)457915-85
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