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Re: [dsdp-pmc] pending RTSC CQ's: [CQ 3269] and [CQ 3270]

+1 From Shigeki 

Thu, 28 May 2009 19:03:51 -0400
"CLONINGER ERIC-DCP874" <ericc@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> +1 from Eric C. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Gaff, Doug
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 1:06 PM
> To: DSDP PMC list
> Subject: RE: [dsdp-pmc] pending RTSC CQ's: [CQ 3269] and [CQ 3270]
> 
> Thanks for the careful review Martin.
> 
> +1 from Doug G.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Oberhuber, Martin
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 3:50 PM
> To: DSDP PMC list
> Subject: RE: [dsdp-pmc] pending RTSC CQ's: [CQ 3269] and [CQ 3270]
> 
> +1 for Rhino 1.6R6 -- Piggyback is a no-brainer :)
> 
> +1 for antlr 3.1.1 -- thanks to your communication with legal,
>    other teams have agreed to use 3.1.1 as well so legal review
>    of that lib will benefit multiple parties and having it in
>    RTSC will be an asset. Thanks for applying for runtime only
>    without the tools.
> 
> After having looked at the CQ's in a bit more detail I can recommend
> other PMC's to vote +1 as well.
> 
> Cheers,
> --
> Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind River Target
> Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
>  
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Russo, David
> > Sent: Donnerstag, 28. Mai 2009 21:39
> > To: DSDP PMC list
> > Subject: [dsdp-pmc] pending RTSC CQ's: [CQ 3269] and [CQ 3270]
> > 
> > Team,
> > 
> > The RTSC project has two outstanding CQ's that require PMC approval 
> > (or not):
> >     3269  Mozilla Rhino Version: 1.6R6 (PB CQ1694) 
> >     https://dev.eclipse.org/ipzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3269
> > 
> >     3270  antlr Version: 3.1.1
> >     https://dev.eclipse.org/ipzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3270
> > 
> > The rhino dependency is a simple piggyback while the antlr is a minor 
> > update to existing antlr CQ's.  Rhino provides the JavaScript 
> > interpreter used to run RTSC meta-domain modules and Antlr is used by 
> > RTSC to generate the IDL parser.
> > 
> > The CQ's above are key to the RTSC project and are pending PMC 
> > approval.  Please vote.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > dave
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Russo, David
> > Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 10:22 AM
> > To: 'DSDP PMC list'
> > Subject: RE: [dsdp-pmc] [CQ 3272] java tar Version: 2.5
> > 
> > Doug and team,
> > 
> > The following CQs are outstanding:
> >     3269  Mozilla Rhino Version: 1.6R6 (PB CQ1694)
> >     3270  antlr Version: 3.1.1
> >     3271  xmlbeans Version: 1.0.4
> >     3272  java tar Version: 2.5
> > 
> > The first two are, in my opinion, uncontroversial and I'd advocate a 
> > +1 for these.
> > 
> > I'd appreciate the team's comments on the others.  I've tried to 
> > fairly represent the issues below.
> > 
> > 3271: xmlbeans 2.3 is already approved, but our tests with Rhino 
> > (which requires xmlbeans for its E4X support) work with
> > 1.0.4 and break with 2.3.  The RTSC team needs to spend time to 
> > determine the root cause and possibly work around the issue in our use
> 
> > of Rhino.  My preference is to get 1.0.4 approved to avoid 
> > destabilizing RTSC (it's likely a problem between Rhino and xmlbeans 
> > that the RTSC team may never fully understand), but I understand the 
> > community desire to piggyback on the already approved xmlbeans 2.3.
> > 
> > 3272: Martin rightly pointed out that several other projects in 
> > eclipse already embed tar support.  The "cleanest" appears to be the 
> > tar support in ant.jar, but this jar is 1.3M compared to 25K for java 
> > tar.  java tar 2.5 is public domain, small, and sufficient for RTSC 
> > needs.  Moreover, we are under considerable pressure to reduce 
> > XDCtools footprint.  So, I see three options:
> >     1. push for java tar to be approved;
> >     2. subset ant.jar, taking only the tar support and any of it's 
> >        prerequisites; or
> >     3. copy tar support from other projects into RTSC.
> > 
> > I strongly prefer to take pre-built solutions and hate cut-copy-paste 
> > coding, so #3 is a last resort.  Even #2 worries me from a maintenance
> 
> > point of view.  Subseting someone else's distribution requires work 
> > that can easily be undone by a simple update of the original 
> > distribution and, as a rule, the RTSC team avoids doing this.
> > 
> > On the other hand, this seems to be what other eclipse projects do.  I
> 
> > see this being done with ANTLR (which surprised me) so perhaps I 
> > should do the same with ant?  Is it common practice to subset other 
> > open-source distributions to create a custom set of jars within 
> > eclipse?
> > 
> > Since java tar 2.5 is small, self-contained and we could reuse its 
> > binary distribution, I opted for #1 above.
> > 
> > If you've read this far, I'd appreciate any comments or guidance you 
> > may have.
> > 
> > dave
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gaff, Doug
> > Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 6:16 AM
> > To: DSDP PMC list
> > Subject: RE: [dsdp-pmc] [CQ 3272] java tar Version: 2.5
> > 
> > Hi Dave,
> > 
> > Please send a summary email for all of your open CQ's that the PMC 
> > needs to vote on. We can vote on all of them and then reference the 
> > vote in the CQ's.
> > 
> > Doug
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On Behalf Of emo-ip-team@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 5:15 PM
> > To: dsdp-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [dsdp-pmc] [CQ 3272] java tar Version: 2.5
> > 
> > http://dev.eclipse.org/ipzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3272
> > 
> > 
> > Barb Cochrane <barb.cochrane@xxxxxxxxxxx> changed:
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- Comment #7 from Barb Cochrane <barb.cochrane@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > 2009-05-06 17:13:38 ---
> > Hi David,
> > 
> > This one is waiting for PMC vote on it as well.  
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > Auto-Generated Text:  IPTeam awaiting response from PMC.
> > 
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