[dsdp-pmc] Re: What do you think about e4 using Java5 ?

["Gorkem Ercan" <gercan@xxxxxxx>]

Hi Martin,
Everybody, I have talked to in the mobile industry, seems to agree the
need to get Java 5 features to CDC. I even heard of rumors about a CDC
2.0 spec on JCP however so far that specification did not materialize
(CDC is Sun's JSR). Usually, JSRs do not conclude in JCP for 2 years.
I think it is safe to assume that there will not be a CDC
specification that supports Java 5 features in e4 time. Although
Android had everyone thinking about Java on the mobile, we have not
yet seen wider adoption of the idea yet.However, I think there is NOT
a single guideline for all the components on Eclipse. I do not think
we will try to run and IDE on the mobile phone soon.

I hope this helps.
--
Gorkem



On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:11 PM, Oberhuber, Martin
<Martin.Oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Gorkem, Mark,
>
> thanks for your kind words on the DSDP PMC. While I have you,
> there is a question I'd like to ask you: on the e4 mailing
> list we had a short discussion about moving e4 core APIs to
> Java5 (generics, enums, util.concurrent package):
> http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/eclipse-incubator-e4-dev/msg01007.h
> tml
>
> How would you see such a move from the "Java on devices" point
> of view?
>
> Generics could be "cross-compiled" to run on an 1.4 compatible
> VM, since they are a source only concept and erasures allow
> running the same code on 1.4. For enums and API usage (such
> as the Java5 util.concurrent package) it's not that simple.
>
> What do you think? Is it still a requirement to have Eclipse
> core APIs run on CDC/CLDC? Is there a chance that Java5
> concepts get pushed into the micro VM's eventually? Do you
> have any other contacts that I could ask this questions?
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind River
> Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
> http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gorkem Ercan
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:41 AM
>> To: DSDP PMC list
>> Subject: [dsdp-pmc] eRCP move completed
>>
>> Our webmaster's have completed the infrastructure move to RT as well.
>> This completes eRCP project's move to RT. However, eRCP is essentially
>> a device runtime, I think we will be working together in the future as
>> well.
>>
>> I would like to take this opportunity to thank the PMC members and
>> Doug Gaff for their guidance and helps.
>>
>> Thanks for having us in DSDP.
>> --
>> Gorkem
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