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RE: [dsdp-pmc] RE: CQ PMC vote in parallel to CQ processing?
Yes,
 
I fully understand your point, Janet. And I'm OK with waiting 5 business
days for PMC approval (well it looks like I tend to be rushing things too
much, eh? :-)
 
My only comment here is, that in my understanding many PMC's do
operate the way that a single PMC member can approve on behalf
of the entire PMC. While never explicitly stated, this practice does
bear some risk of recalling a decision. We didn't change this, but
just stated it explicitly.
 
So, I'm not sure if we should be discussing PMC approval process
in a broader forum. Bjorn, what do you think?
 
Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind River
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
 
 

From: Gaff, Doug
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 3:59 PM
To: DSDP PMC list; Oberhuber, Martin
Cc: 'Bjorn Freeman-Benson'; 'Sharon Corbett'; 'Barb Cochrane'
Subject: RE: [dsdp-pmc] RE: CQ PMC vote in parallel to CQ processing?

Thanks Janet,

 

We need to discuss this further at the PMC.

 

Doug

 

From: dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Janet Campbell
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 1:28 PM
To: Oberhuber, Martin
Cc: 'Bjorn Freeman-Benson'; 'Sharon Corbett'; 'Barb Cochrane'; 'DSDP PMC list'
Subject: [dsdp-pmc] RE: CQ PMC vote in parallel to CQ processing?

 

Hi Martin,

 

With the introduction of parallel IP, we spend a significant level of effort on the front end doing triage on a submission once we receive the PMCs +1 .  While I agree that I think the number of instances where the PMC may later change their mind will be low, I would nonetheless like to avoid the possibility of wasted effort wherever possible.  Would it be possible to set a time-line (e.g. 5 business days) within which the PMC must vote and then come to us with a definitive answer?

 

Thanks,
Janet

 

Janet Campbell

Phone:  +1.613.224.9461, x.229 (GMT -5)

Fax:  +1.613.224.5172

janet.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxx

 

 

From: Oberhuber, Martin [mailto:Martin.Oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 1:05 AM
To: Janet Campbell
Cc: DSDP PMC list; Bjorn Freeman-Benson
Subject: CQ PMC vote in parallel to CQ processing?

Hi Janet,

 

we had a discussion at the DSDP PMC yesterday about how to

do PMC approval for CQ's.

 

Some PMC's allow a single PMC member to +1 a CQ on behalf

of the entire PMC. For DSDP, we want to shoot for broader

agreement, but don't want to loose much time waiting for

everyone to vote.

 

As a compromise, our idea is this:

  • After the Portal sends the CQ message to the PMC, we do a voting on the mailing list.
  • Once 2 +1 votes are in (in addition to the submitting project), a PMC member approves the CQ
  • Others are allowed to still -1 the CQ after-the-fact

This might result in the (unlikely) situation that a PMC member

disapproves a request after another member had approved it

already. I just wanted to check back with you if that is OK for

you? - More details below

 

Cheers,

--

Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind River

Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member

http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm

 

 

 

From: dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gaff, Doug
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 8:19 PM
To: DSDP PMC list
Subject: [dsdp-pmc] November Minutes

http://wiki.eclipse.org/DSDP/PMC/PMC_Minutes_06Nov08

 

Clarification of Voting

 

Committer Vote: DSDP PMC approval of committers will function similarly to project committer votes. When a project's committer vote starts, the project lead will notify the PMC of the nominated committer and the PMC vote will also commence so that the vote happens in parallel. The vote will be held open for one week. There must be 3 +1 votes from the PMC, and no negative votes. All PMC members are encouraged to vote, and a 0 vote is acceptable if you have no time to examine the contribution record of the nominated committer.

 

CQ Vote: DSDP PMC approval of CQ's (contribution questionnaires) requires a +1 vote of 2 PMC members (not including the PMC lead of the project receiving the contribution) and no -1 votes. The vote concludes when 2 +1 votes are received. PMC members are allowed to veto the CQ (within a reasonable time period) after the CQ is approved, since there is typically a delay between PMC approval and CQ approval from the Eclipse IP team. All PMC members are encouraged to vote, and a 0 vote is acceptable if you have no time to examine the CQ.

 

EclipseCon Action Items

 

Tutorial

Martin: Submit an EclipseCon tutorial for TCF

Dave: Submit an EclipseCon tutorial for RTSC

 

Long

Christian: Submit an EclipseCon long talk for MTJ

 

Panel

Eric: Submit an EclipseCon panel for the Mobile Working Group

 

Short

All project leads: Submit an EclipseCon short talk for your project

Martin: Submit an EclipseCon short talk for packaging

Doug: Talk to Wayne P about a Firefly short talk

 

General Action Items

 

Doug: Talk to Wayne P about the mechanics of recruiting a second mentor for Firefly.

Eric: Sign up TmL for the Galileo train.

Christian/Diego: Sign up MTJ for the Galileo train.

 

Shigeki: Is NAB on the Galileo train? Please sign up.

Doug: think about a graphic for DSDP branding.

 

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