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RE: [dsdp-mtj-dev] MTJ Model
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Hi
I cannot access to the telco, cause I get 
innformation thta the access code is invalid?
Are others able to 
participate?
-Arto
  
  
The description of generating the 
  model code is in CVS at  dev.eclipse.org 
  /cvsroot/dsdp/org.eclipse.mtj/mtj-home/docs/MTJ_model_codegen.ppt 
  
It is a decent start to get you generating 
  the model, although a few of the steps are missing or in the wrong 
  order. 
The architecture documents 
  that you should be looking at for more basic understanding are in the same 
  directory,  You will need to check the datestamps from CVS to determine 
  which one is the last, but look at the MTJ Release 1 Architecture* documents 
  for an intro, or the presentations we have one the eclipse/MTJ website that we 
  gave at EclipseCon. 
kevin 
  
--
Kevin 
  Horowitz
khorowit@xxxxxxxxxx
Expeditor Tools Development
Workplace 
  Portal and Collaboration Software
IBM - Boca Raton, 
  +1-561-862-2113
  
    
    
      | From: 
       | Christian Kurzke 
        <christian@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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      | To: 
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      | Date: 
       | 11/14/2007 10:43 AM 
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      | Subject: 
       | Re: [dsdp-mtj-dev] MTJ 
    Model | 
  
  
Arto,
Can you please point us at the 
  explanation you gave before (mentioned by 
Kevin)? Maybe we can read up on 
  this before the meeting.
During the meeting - It would be good if you 
  could get us all on the 
same page. I agree we should take a few minutes to 
  address this central 
component of MTJ.
Is there any presentations you 
  have which you can send out before the 
meeting?
Please assume that 
  most of us are not familiar with the details of 
  EMF.
Thanks!
-Christian
Arto.Laurila@xxxxxxxxx 
  wrote:
> Hi,
> The current MTJ services are using an EMF based 
  model, that is 
> initially created with any EMF compatible 
  tool.
> The tools that Kevin is referring here and what e.g. I have used 
  is 
> the a bit older Rational Rose tool to create the UML 
  model.
> I think that even some very old version of Rose can be used 
  with this.
> Thus the same model can be done with other tools, like IBM 
  Rational 
> Architect or Modeler or what ever (or even directly with the 
  EMF).
> When thinking the current MTJ architecture, there is certainly 
  needed 
> to discuss that does team members have experience on EMF or 
  not.
> In case of that would be replaced, it pretty much means that the 
  whole 
> MTJ internal architecture have to be recoded also.
> As 
  comparing to other Eclipse based projects, some of those are not 
> 
  using EMF at all and they do model their data model e.g. with plain 
  java.
> As it is e.g. with EclipseME (Craig, correct me if I'm 
  wrong).
> Why the EMF has been used here, well that enables to have a 
  Eclipse 
> compatible and working data layer, where the initial design 
  is done
> with UML and the the MTJ related EMF layer is generated from 
  the UML 
> file. That saves a lot of coding & testing time.
> 
  In my part I have to say that if the EMF layer is dropped, I may have 
> 
  problems to participate to create the same functionality again from 
  Nokia
> point of view.
> -Arto
>
>     
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> 
      *From:* dsdp-mtj-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>     
  [mailto:dsdp-mtj-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *ext
>     Raniere Hugo-wha006
> 
      *Sent:* 14. marraskuuta 2007 16:33
>     *To:* 
  Mobile Tools for The Java Platform mailing list
>     
  *Subject:* RE: [dsdp-mtj-dev] MTJ Model
>
>     Hi 
  Kevin,
>
>     I’m one of the guys at Motorola intending 
  to work in MTJ. I agree
>     with you that having this kind 
  of dependencies may not be good for
>     the project, and one 
  of the tasks we are proposing in this MTJ
>     reboot is to 
  have an new proposed architecture by beginning of
>     next 
  year. For sure we can review the data model for this new
>     
  proposed architecture.
>
>     During the meeting we are 
  also going to talk about the proposed
>     planning (more 
  info on mtj wiki). If the meeting time is not
>     enough to 
  discuss about the data model, we can set a new activity
>     
  in the planning to analyze the data model.
>
>     Best 
  regards,
>
>     Hugo
>
>     
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>
> 
      *From:* dsdp-mtj-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>     
  [mailto:dsdp-mtj-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Kevin M
>     Horowitz
>   
    *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2007 11:11 AM
>     
  *To:* dsdp-mtj-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
>     *Subject:* [dsdp-mtj-dev] 
  MTJ Model
>
>
>     Hi,
>
>   
    I realize this is a little late for today's meeting, but I 
  would
>     like to suggest that as part of the reset, we open 
  the idea of the
>     current data model behind the MTJ 
  project. The model stores all of
>     the relational data 
  about devices and setup. The model is
>     generated using a 
  Rational product, and then converted using the
>     EMF 
  project. Arto provided instructions at the very end of our
>   
    relationship explaining how this code is generated, but this 
  ties
>     us to a commercial product that many of our 
  participants might not
>     have in the future, and makes 
  modifications to the underlaying
>     data structure 
  difficult to maintain my team members.
>
>     
  kevin
>     --
>     Kevin Horowitz
> 
      khorowit@xxxxxxxxxx
>     Expeditor Tools 
  Development
>     Workplace Portal and Collaboration 
  Software
>     IBM - Boca Raton, 
  +1-561-862-2113
>
> 
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