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Hi Dobrin, I think that would be a great
presentation to see. Part of what we need to accomplish is a menu of choices
and criteria for making those choices so that new debugger vendors have an idea
of which path to take, and which path they may wish to invest in. Your
experiences will help a lot for this.
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Behalf Of Alexiev, Dobrin >>> Then, if we could find someone that has
made a lot of extensions to the existing CDT model who could give a
presentation on it I can give a presentation that shares our
experience at TI for the past two years. We started implementing CDI debugger and
over time accumulated multiple changes in different layers (CDT, Platform) to
satisfy our requirements. Do you think that will have value for the
rest of the community? May be at the end we can converge into
some kind of table that can help others decide which layer is most appropriate
for their debugger integration. - If your debugger has these and these
requirements your best bet is to integrate against that layer. To be honest, I kind of expect DSF to have
this kind of guideline document. - if your debugger has these and these
features you can integrate against these and these services in DSF. Regards Dobrin From: dsdp-dd-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:dsdp-dd-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Pawel Piech Hi Mikhail and all, We have compared CDI and DSF many times. I
believe those who implemented a CDI based integration understand its
limitations. The new flexible hierarchy API has been added lately to the
Platform. DSF is based on this API and takes advantage of it. CDI can be ported
to it but it is not a simple task especially if we want to keep it
compatible with the existing implementations. I am currently integrating our debug
kernel into Eclipse and using the flexible hierarchy API directly. So far
it is going quite well and I haven't had serious problems. But I
would like to understand what would I gain if I use DSF. I don't mind to discuss it at the CDT
summit, but it is not related directly to CDT. Mikhail From: dsdp-dd-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
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On Behalf Of This is definitely a discussion I’d
like to have at the CDT summit. Pawel can correct me, but I believe the code
camp was for people currently working on DSF integrations. During our Debug day
at the summit, we can do a Q&A and compare CDI with DSF and build up a
checklist to help integrators decide which to use.
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On Behalf Of Alexiev, Dobrin Hi Pawel, I also would like to attend. I think Mikhail expressed exactly our main
concern at TI. And I believe it is a concern for other
people that have a non GDB version of their debuggers. Currently we integrated our debugger
through CDI. Going forward we’d like to know
which of the options makes most sense considering out debugger features.
- stay with CDI
- go to the Platform Flexible Hierarchy.
- use all or most of DSF - use
parts of DSF that fit most. I know
that it is not a “yes or no answer”, but information that will help
us make the optimal decision will be most useful for us and I believe others
that struggle with the same question. Regards Dobrin From: dsdp-dd-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
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On Behalf Of Mikhail Khodjaiants Hi Pawel, What kind of a DSF-related discussion is
planned at the CDT meeting? Personally I would like to evaluate the
pros and contras of using DSF instead of implementing the new
flexible-hierarchy API directly for non-gdb based backends. Also it would
be very useful for developers if you present a list of high level tasks
that are necessary to integrate a backend debugger into DSF. None of these topics is directly related
to CDT. At the same time people who write code for the gdb/mi implementation
may not be interested. What do you think, which of the two meetings is more
appropriate to discuss this type of questions? Thanks, Mikhail Khodjaiants From: dsdp-dd-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
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