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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Declaring Orbit Build: S20220403232146 (2022-06 M1)
Hi Christian / Ed / Ed / other Orbit consumers,

> @Jonah does this mean i deed to use 10 repos to get the sum of my orbit deps?

No, it means if you rely on the old CVS defined orbit bundles you now need to make that reference explicit in your target file (i.e to R20201118194144 + S20220403232146 for M1) as the Orbit project is not maintaining the old CVS defined bundles anymore.

Using the CVS defined orbit is a risk for the project (and up to the project to decide how much of a risk that is). We no longer have the sources or build machine of the CVS defined bundles and have for the last few years been patching the repo*. Because we don't have a way to build those old bundles everytime a modification needed to be made it was a lot of manual crafting of p2 repos and modifying metadata.

Here is a concrete example. Orbit's upcoming releases do not want to recommend org.apache.log4j 1.2.15 anymore (due to CVEs). That bundle version is not in S20220403232146, but its replacement is (1.2.19) and no one wants to make another derivative of R20201118194144 that has it excluded. 

As for specific dependencies identified in this thread:

>org.antlr.runtime/3.2.0.v201101311130
That version is available in R20201118194144 and newer versions (3.5.2, and numerous 4.x versions) will be in the recommended 2022-06 release.

>JUnit 4.12
Also in R20201118194144 and newer versions (4.13.2 and 5.x) will be in the recommended 2022-06 release.

> com.google.gson 2.8.9
This is in the 2022-06 M1, so not sure what the issue is here.

> javax.inject
Available in R20201118194144. As of now no one has added jakarta.inject (the new name for this bundle) to Orbit's git as an EBR. The whole javax -> jakarta transition has lots of its own problems that so far are being handled piecemeal (and is part of why Mylyn stopped working and has been removed from SimRel).

> commons.lang
Available in R20201118194144. As of now no one has added it to Orbit's git as an EBR.

> should we create a bugzilla?
There is one - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=568936

I hope that clarifies things. Please ask follow-ups.
Jonah


* https://download.eclipse.org/tools/orbit/downloads/drops/R20160520211859/ was the last recommended build from CVS, https://download.eclipse.org/tools/orbit/downloads/drops/R20201118194144/ is the many times patched version of that.




~~~
Jonah Graham
Kichwa Coders
www.kichwacoders.com


On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 at 01:03, Christian Dietrich <christian.dietrich@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

@Jonah does this mean i deed to use 10 repos to get the sum of my orbit deps?

i am getting

Error: Failed to resolve target definition /home/runner/work/xtext-reference-projects/xtext-reference-projects/integrationtests/org.eclipse.xtext.integrationtests.target/org.eclipse.xtext.integrationtests.target.target: Could not find "org.antlr.runtime/3.2.0.v201101311130" in the repositories of the current location

is that intentional?

Am 04.04.22 um 01:57 schrieb Jonah Graham:
Hello folks,

I am distributing this wider than normal because of the larger impact of this change. See details below in the quoted emails.

Following the build process on the wiki[0] I'm declaring S20220403232146 [1,2] as our contribution for SimRel 2022-06 M1 [3].

Reminder: As of 2022-06 this is no longer a composite repo. The final CVS defined bundles are available in R20201118194144[4]. If you need these old bundles I highly recommend you add recipes to orbit[5] or change to other options like the new Maven in PDE option[6]. We don't really have a way to rebuild these old bundles therefore having your project depend on them is a risk in your project. 

The following changes are new for 2022-06 M1 since  2022-03 R (sorry for the noisy commits on build scripts - these changes used to be hidden in configuration changes on Jenkins, but I migrated all the build scripts to git):

4322974 Bug 569078: GMF Runtime have fixed their SimRel contribution (fixup)
fe394e5 Merge "Bug 569078: GMF Runtime have fixed their SimRel contribution"
467effd Bug 568936: Automatically set name/description of build
0ea4906 Bug 568936: Fix typos/syntax error in build scripts
43f6ea5 Bug 569078: GMF Runtime have fixed their SimRel contribution
05613db Bug 568936: Add description to main build process
6fe3fb2 Bug 568936: Add description to main build process
76a5833 Bug 568936: Add org.apache.xml.resolver recipe <-- highlighted because this is the only bundle change for 2022-06 M1 vs 2022-03 R
e638e8e Bug 568936: Remove CVS bundles from mirroring and output
bccd811 Bug 568936: Fix name of Jenkinsfile
7569a3d Bug 568936: Fix typos/syntax error in build scripts
09458b8 Bug 568936: The timestamp should be ms since 1970
c3e0f5e Bug 568936: Fix typos/syntax error in build scripts
9502f26 Bug 568936: Composite handling + always promote build
119c3f1 Bug 568936: Fix typos/syntax error in build scripts
74eb7d7 Bug 568936: Fix typos/syntax error in build scripts
556e608 Bug 568936: Fix typos/syntax error in build scripts
1fb1ece Bug 568936: Fix typos/syntax error in build scripts
19fce78 Bug 568936: Fix typos/syntax error in build scripts
ed3f604 Bug 568936: Remove CVS sourced bundles from Orbit
e355dbf Bug 568936: Move Jenkinsfile and used scripts into source control
105e5c4 Bug 569078: Make a limited version of bundles from Orbit for SimRel (fixup)
b544c64 Bug 569078: Make a limited version of bundles from Orbit for SimRel
37f3210 Build against Eclipse 4.23
8d3e517 Update reference repository to 2022-03 R release

As for the comparing repos - Roland has provided me details which I added to the Wiki[0] - but it is non trivial for me to run at the moment. Please let me know if you are able to help out by providing that info.


Thanks,
Jonah

~~~
Jonah Graham
Kichwa Coders
www.kichwacoders.com


On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 at 22:32, Jonah Graham <jonah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello folks,

Starting with 2022-06 M1 the Orbit repo will no longer be a composite repo combining the old CVS build with the latest git based build.

The 2022-03 recommended build will be the last to contain these old CVS bundles.

Please comment on the bug if this causes you any concerns, or would like to voice your support.

Thanks,
Jonah

~~~
Jonah Graham
Kichwa Coders
www.kichwacoders.com


---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: <bugzilla-daemon@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 at 22:29
Subject: [Bug 568936] Remove remaining CVS defined bundles from Orbit recommended builds starting in 2022-06
To: <jonah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>


https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=568936
Product/Component: Orbit / bundles


Jonah Graham <jonah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
            Summary|Move remaining CVS defined  |Remove remaining CVS
                   |bundles to git              |defined bundles from Orbit
                   |                            |recommended builds starting
                   |                            |in 2022-06
   Target Milestone|---                         |2022-06

--- Comment #7 from Jonah Graham <jonah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ---
After discussing with various stakeholders, including at the Planning
Council[1] the current plan is to instead of migrating all these bundles is to
just deprecate the CVS versions.

Projects consuming the CVS versions of the bundles can point to the last
release containing them (will be 2022-03 recommended build*) and/or update the
git repo to include them, or better yet consume directly from Maven Central.

Therefore the plan is from 2022-06 M1 the CVS component of this Orbit repo will
be dropped.


[1] https://wiki.eclipse.org/Planning_Council/2022-02-02
* please recall that "R" builds in Orbit means recommend, not release.

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