| Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] BIRT removal |
Hi
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=568144
We have the same sort of arrangement with Eclipse Jetty. The simultaneous release includes Jetty and it's included in the packages (to support the help system), but it's not a participant in the release and is not listed as an installable feature.
Your project can pull in the required bits of Eclipse BIRT, but will then be responsible for them.
I am getting some faint hope vibes that the BIRT team might re-engage, but those are fleeting.
Wayne
On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 11:49 AM Andrew Johnson <andrew_johnson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Is AERI still used in release
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> Thanks for this, Jonah.
>
> That logging/milestones directory probably needs to be removed, but I'll
> leave that to your discretion.
>
> The BIRT aggrcon needs to be removed. BIRT dropped out, so their aggrcon
> should be deleted, please.
>
...
>
> Wayne
>
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 9:40 PM Jonah Graham <jonah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>
> > Hi Wayne,
> >
> > TL;DR
> >
> > AERI p2 was:
> > https://download.eclipse.org/technology/epp/logging/milestones/ - see
change
> > 170952
> > <https://git.eclipse.org/r/c/simrel/org.eclipse.simrel.build/+/170952>
> >
> > There are 6 or so other aggrcons that need attention, details below,
but 4
> > of them can be deleted if I can get a +1 on change 171096
> > <https://git.eclipse.org/r/c/simrel/org.eclipse.simrel.build/+/171096>
> >
> > Longer version:
> >
> > The AERI p2 repo was being picked up from
> > https://download.eclipse.org/technology/epp/logging/milestones/ - see
> > https://git.eclipse.org/r/c/simrel/org.eclipse.simrel.build/+/170952
for
> > the change that removed it from SimRel.
> >
> > There are a few other aggrcon files that are perhaps a little dated.
> >
> > enabled aggrcon files with no edits in 2020:
> > - actf - project has a few commits in 2020, just no more recent
release or
> > contribution to simrel
> > - birt - there is long history here that I am not revisiting[1]
> > - usssdk[2] - project has a few commits in 2020, just no more recent
> > contribution to simrel
> >
...
> >
> > [1] ...but the current birt p2 repo contributes a bunch of old orbit
> > content to simrel that cause problems like Bug 499207 (Obsolete
> > certificates) <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=499207> -
in
> > light of Bug 553288 <
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=553288>
> > which may make even more of the certificates out of date we may need
to
> > revisit this again before 2020-12 release. The birt p2 repo is
practically
> > a simrel of its own, it includes lots or orbit, eclipse platform,
> > datatools, and lots of other stuff. Generally this is not a problem,
but
> > the orbit project publishes bundles with the same fully qualified
version
> > that differs only in signature. So there are multiple bundles out
there
> > which are not binary equal but have the same version.
> >
...
> >
> > HTH,
> > Jonah
> >
> > ~~~
> > Jonah Graham
> > Kichwa Coders
> > www.kichwacoders.com
> >
BIRT removal was discussed in December 2019
https://www.eclipse.org/lists/cross-project-issues-dev/msg17217.html
and the contribution was reduced to just the BIRT charting feature which
solved the problems then. Is this proposal to remove that as well?
Eclipse Memory Analyzer uses BIRT charts for its useful (but optional)
chart feature.
What options does MAT have for continuing to use BIRT charting?
The birt.aggrcon points to
https://download.eclipse.org/birt/update-site/oxygen-interim/
with BIRT files dated 4.7.0.v201706222054.jar
but there is also
https://download.eclipse.org/birt/update-site/photon-interim/
with BIRT files dated 4.8.0.v201905101549.jar
https://download.eclipse.org/birt/update-site/2018-09-interim/
with BIRT files dated 4.9.0.v201905231911.jar
and full downloads, but not a p2 update site at
https://download.eclipse.org/birt/downloads/build.php?build=R-R1-4.8.0-201806261756
including birt-charts-4.8.0-20180626.zip
though SimRel can't choose a release - that is for the project. I saw a
couple of new committer elections to BIRT in September/October 2020 but no
recent activity yet from them.
https://www.eclipse.org/lists/birt-dev/threads.html#11081
Andrew Johnson
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