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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] 2019-12: The Eclipse Eierlegende Wollmilchsau

Hi Ed

On 10/12/2019 08:56, Arthur van Dorp wrote:
Or is it just the interactions such that no single bundle is actually to blame?  Or did I install something that should not be installed in an IDE?

Kind of Yes. My strong prejudice is that earlyStartup is a major facility that some projects misuse as an easy way to avoid designing an appropriately lazy application specific startup. IMHO earlyStartup allows many 'ordinary' things to happen before the platform is ready. Since EMF can be used by many early registrations, EMF is very likely to feature in the startup fight. I would back a move to require all usage of org.eclipse.ui.startup to need signing off by the PMC and the platform team.

(Oops, the usage of org.eclipse.ui.startup by a user contribution to QVTo never got written out.)


        Ed Willink

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