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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Restrict BIRT's Contribution...


On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 10:11 AM Ed Merks <ed.merks@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Aleksandar,

Thanks again for the constructive suggestion.  I experimented with reducing BIRT's contribution to just the chart feature:

  https://git.eclipse.org/r/154052

That build passes and that also solves the "who will do this problem". :-P


Hey Ed,
Thanks for stepping up yet again!
I'm glad to be of little help as I can.
 

In addition, I fixed all the broken links in simrel.aggr. Many people are editing textually; removing a feature from your *.aggrcon breaks the links from the custom categories to those features, or shifts them to a different feature.  It's hard ensure one doesn't introduce errors when there are errors to begin with.  :-(

Note that I'm not 100% sure if this change to BIRT's contribution also avoids all the unsigned content, but I believe it does.  I.e., installing this feature in an IDE does not appear to install the two unsigned bundles older Orbit bundles.

Of course I'm not so comfortable changing someone else's *.aggrcon, so if there is someone from the BIRT team paying attention, please speak up.

Failing that, what do we, the active participants, think of this approach/change?

RC2 is next week so I would vote for removing it now and if there is BIRT team member active they do the needed reenablement. IMHO we are past the state where we can wait for people to show up and broken things should be removed (where possible without breaking the house of cards) and if there is interested party they will step up, otherwise it's just luggage we carry needlessly.
 

Regards,
Ed


On 06.12.2019 20:51, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote:
Yes the feature is still there https://github.com/eclipse/birt/blob/master/features/org.eclipse.birt.chart.feature/feature.xml . If that's enough for MAT it should work.

On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 9:47 PM Aleksandar Kurtakov <akurtako@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 9:03 PM Andrew Johnson <andrew_johnson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2019 18:38:24 +0100
From: Ed Merks
To: cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject:

Fred,

We're definitely on the path to greatness again.? Many teams have taken
action so the RC1 report is much improved:

https://download.eclipse.org/oomph/archive/reports/download.eclipse.org/releases/2019-12/http___download.eclipse.org_releases_2019-12_201912061000.html

Special thanks to the Eclipse Collections team who I know invested
significant time.

There are unfortunately some hold-outs that continue to reflect poorly
on our group's results:

These outstanding bugs are open for each of the bad license problems
because it appears that these contributors are not reading cross-projects:

   https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=553879
   https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=553523
   https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=553880
   https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=553881
   https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=553882
   https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=553883

*Please pay attention t4me, uml2, m2e, m2e-wtp, mylyn docs, and xwt teams.*

Also, given that the Reporting package has been removed I would
recommend removing BIRT itself from SimRel.?? This content is more than
two years old with bad licenses and with the only remaining unsigned
content. ? I don't hold out hope that there will be a new build so I've
*not *opened a Bugzilla. *
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*
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*Does BIRT removal affect anyone?*

Regards,
Ed

Yes, Eclipse Memory Analyzer uses BIRT for graphing of memory usage. We would not have any pie charts if BIRT was removed, both dynamic charts in the overview pane and HTML charts in reports. The pie charts shown on our home page https://www.eclipse.org/mat/ and here https://www.eclipse.org/mat/about/overview.png and here https://help.eclipse.org/2019-09/topic/org.eclipse.mat.ui.help/tasks/listbiggestobjects.html is generated by BIRT.

Fortunately the graphing is in a separate feature, so it would not break the rest of the tool, but it is useful for us. We only have a small team and don't have the time or expertise to use a new graphing package. If it has to be removed then we need plenty of notice, and ideally some help in writing code to use a replacement. Please keep BIRT.

Is it a possibility BIRT contribution to be shrinked to charting feature only? IIRC chart was separate feature in birt . We moved to swtchart from BIRT chart in Linux Tools and never looked back.
 


Thanks,

Andrew Johnson
Committer, Eclipse Memory Analyzer project



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