SimRel Participants,
                While we're making progress on improving the
                  state of the SimRel repo for 2019-12, without the
                  active involvement of the ~80 teams contributing
                  content, we're still going to fall far short of an
                  acceptable quality benchmark.
                Many projects simply need to do a new build
                  to use the proper and correct version of SUA 2.0 from
                  CBI and to use the latest Orbit
                  dependencies.  
                
                Roland Grunberg has been kind enough to
                  publish a new Orbit I-build to ensure that there are
                  no bundles signed  with expired root certificates:
                  https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=552251
                The Orbit dependencies that you contribute
                  to the train should come from there, and not some
                  antiquated older version.  You should also look
                  closely at whether your contributed or Orbit
                  dependencies  align those contributed by other
                  projects.  Currently 55 bundles are contributed as
                  duplicates which is something we ought to avoid.  But
                  at this point, duplicates is the least of my concern. 
                  Just don't contribute old versions of
                  com.google.inject.assistedinject_3.0.0.v201402270930
                  and org.antlr.runtime_3.0.0.v200803061811.
                That mean the ATL teams needs to pay
                  attention
                
                https://download.eclipse.org/oomph/archive/reports/download.eclipse.org/staging/2019-12/index/org.eclipse.m2m.atl.dsls_4.1.0.v201909021645.html#osgi.bundle;_org.antlr.runtime_[3.0.0,3.1.0)
                
                Also the GEF team:
                https://download.eclipse.org/oomph/archive/reports/download.eclipse.org/staging/2019-12/index/org.eclipse.gef.mvc.fx.ui_5.1.1.201910161621.html#java.package;_com.google.inject.assistedinject_[1.3.0,1.4.0)
                
                These dependency ranges will force the old
                  problematic version.
                
                What concerns me most is that some teams are
                  completely unresponsive:
                
                  https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=551591
                    https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=551550
                
                So it heartens me to see  others who have
                  taken active steps:
                
                  https://github.com/eclipse/eclipse-collections/issues/763
                
                Out of respect for all those many active
                  participants who work tirelessly to contribute high
                  quality results, please consider that your inaction
                  reflects poorly on all of us.  In the end, the user
                  doesn't care or know where things come from, they are
                  faced with dialogs displaying many "duplicate"
                  licenses, they see dialogs asking them to accept
                  expired (root) certificates, and dialogs to accept the
                  installation of  unsigned content.   It just doesn't
                  give the user a warm fuzzy feeling that they're about
                  to install something really great and that undermines
                  the effort of hundreds of us who are working hard to
                  give a great first impression and well as a lasting
                  good impression.
                
                This is is the future state for M3 if no
                  further action is taken:
                 
                  https://download.eclipse.org/oomph/archive/reports/download.eclipse.org/staging/2019-12/index.html
                That state is a result of your
                  contributions:
                 https://download.eclipse.org/oomph/archive/simrel/
                
                I believe there are a significant number of
                  contributions that have simply died long ago but their
                  input lingers on in a limbo zombie state.  Those will
                  need to be removed...  And when one sees contributions
                  coming from archive.eclipse.org,
                  or with neon, oxygen, and photon in the name, or
                  ending with "snapshots", you know that's likely
                  questionable and is likely old crap or totally
                  unstable in terms of content.
                Regards,
                  Ed
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
               
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