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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Announcing a one week slip in the Mars.1 release (from 9/25 to 10/2)

Gunnar, and others,

Yes, I agree there is a large cost with re-spins and delays. Hence, one of the reasons we are reluctant to do it. But, given that was the decision, there's several reasons we require participants to release at the same time.  It is not arbitrary nor overly restrictive. It's quite important that a "Simultaneous Release" be simultaneous. I won't list all those out now, since I suspect obvious to many, AND, mostly because ...

We may be talking about different things. If you have adopters that need to do some final testing, or, do builds of their own based on your bits, then of course you can tell them were to find the bits that are anticipated to be released -- I hope you and others have done that before now! And, they should be told it's tentative until the formal release. There is always a possibility that by next week someone will find yet another, much worse bug than what we've seen so far, and everyone might agree, again, there should be another delay (I think rare and unlikely, but, not impossible -- especially with our newly relaxed rules about new projects and new features).

The "visibility" part has more to do with "users" (not adopters) such as the standard download pages and p2 repositories should not be "visible" in the normal ways. Most adopters will know where to find them, on  there own!, but if they don't then the location of the anticipated release bits can be communicated to them.  

Welcome to the business of open source software development! :)

From:        Gunnar Wagenknecht <gunnar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:        Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date:        09/24/2015 12:26 AM
Subject:        Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Announcing a one week slip in the        Mars.1 release (from 9/25 to 10/2)
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> Am 23.09.2015 um 23:37 schrieb David M Williams <david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx>:
> If not obvious, this means all participants in "coordinated release train" should not make your releases visible on 9/25, but wait until 10/2 10 AM to make them visible, and announce your official releases.

This seem unnecessarily restrictive. I don't bother with the announcement part. However, I don't recall there is something in the process that requires project to wait publishing the release bits. Not making them visible could have a huge effect on a project's adopter community.


Gunnar Wagenknecht

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