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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Heads up: Platform will be "coming in hot" with M6 changes for "Mac App" layout

Yes, does seem like issues with mirrors (or, our computed link to them) ... I'm assuming you can get from main Eclipse download site? (I could, just now).
Thanks for pointing that out ... I have opened Bug 461931  for it.




From:        Marcel Bruch <marcel.bruch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:        David M Williams/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS,
Date:        03/11/2015 11:26 AM
Subject:        Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Heads up: Platform will be "coming in hot" with M6 changes for "Mac App" layout




Iâve trouble download the mac edition from the linked website [1]. It seems the mirrors did no pick it up already or the link is bad.


http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops4/X20150309-0218/


On 11 Mar 2015, at 16:15, David M Williams <david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Extended team,

I wanted to make everyone aware of our latest Platform plans for M6 ... especially since it has the potential to effect "downstream" consumers and contributions to Mars Sim. Release.  If anyone sees any "blocking" aspects to this plan, let us know.


In short, we will aggressively be trying to get changes needed to build our "Mac Product" in a relatively standard "Mac App layout". See


Bug 431116 - Releases for Mac OS X should be bundled as a proper "Mac App" and/or "Library"

We felt it important to make the move by M6, to be sure problems/issues can be found, and fixed, by M7 ... otherwise, we face a greater risk making changes during RCs, or, worse, not having it well tested by anyone or no time to make important fixes.


Some issues are listed below ... may be others?


- To do this, we will soon have to move to Tycho 0.23.0-SNAPSHOT.
-- always risky to do a milestone with a "SNAPSHOT", but ... we think worth it in this case. (And we'll ask Tycho team to be "extra careful" :)
-- so far, we can not quite get our "production build" to work with it ... but, suspect we can soon.
-- For an "experimental build", see
http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops4/X20150309-0218/
--- (This was produced with a locally built "patched" Tycho, and so far haven't quite got the "official" SNAPSHOT to work consistently ... but works sometimes, and issues appear unrelated to the "Mac layout")


- The change is "all or nothing" ... once we (and Tycho) move to this new layout, the old layout will no longer be possible.


* This should only effect consumers who create their own "products" ... should not effect "features" or "plugins" in any way.
* Should not effect Linux or Windows "products" in any way.

* But, anyone who does produce "products", for the Mac, will also have to use Tycho 0.23.0-SNAPSHOT for "Sim. Release".
* Effect on "PDE Builds" and "Buckminster builds" is sort of unknown (by us) ... ?  


We have set our own deadline of Sunday March 15 to "have everything working" ... and, if not by then ... *might* have to back peddle, or come up with some other plan.


Just wanted to give a little early warning of this change coming. I think for the most part, everyone will welcome the change, but may be some rough spots ahead.


Please comment in
Bug 431116 if you see issues, or open new bugs, having them 'block' that bug.

Thanks,



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