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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Projects missing from Mars

Doug,

 

As a committer on TM and a project lead on TCF I am violently opposed against keeping the TM terminal alive.

 

If you still believe that TCF terminal does not support multiple views, you are 1.5 years or more late with your assessment.

 

As of today, the TCF Terminals view is at 100% feature parity compared to TM Terminal, and offers MUCH more (like drag-and-drop rearrangement of its multiple views for example, local terminal support, proper detection of target encoding and more). I’ve documented the feature parity on a bugzilla bug long ago if you want details (just don’t have time digging that out now).

 

Please, don’t make announcements like this without talking to the committers on the projects that you are talking about.

 

Thanks,

Martin

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From: cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug Schaefer
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 9:03 PM
To: Cross project issues
Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Projects missing from Mars

 

BTW, I am going to take another look at the TM Terminal. Dropping should be considered on hold at the moment. It might have a place with our o.e.remote strategy and has some UX features that are actually better than the TCF Terminal, like multiple views. Again no commitments but I should have a good understanding of where we need this to go by end of Jan.

 

BTW2, my biggest problem is that I’m releasing the LaunchBar in Luna SR-2 with CDT 8.6 and it has dependencies on all this stuff. So I’m walking a bit of a tight rope on this at the moment.

 

Doug.

 

From: <Oberhuber>, Martin <Martin.Oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, December 11, 2014 at 2:55 PM
To: Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Projects missing from Mars

 

Hi Wayne, all –

 

Target Communication Framework (TCF) intends to participate in Mars with an 1.3 release
(or probably 1.4 in case we end up releasing 1.3 sooner – at any rate it’ll be backward compatible).

 

Key things we’re working on include

-          Improve the TCF Terminals View and have it picked up as the default terminal by EPP packages (instead of TM Terminal which drops from Mars)

-          Symbol resolver improvements for C++11 and ADA Debugging

-          Improve documentation for new adopters and extenders of TCF

 

Our release record is here:
https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/tools.cdt.tcf/releases/1.3.0

 

Our offset will be +2 (since we depend on CDT)

 

And I couldn’t figure out where to “flip the flag” on the PMI to show Mars participation, so please let me know if anything is still missing.

 

Thanks,

Martin

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Martin Oberhuber, SMTS / Product Owner – Development Tools, Wind River

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From: cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wayne Beaton
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:29 PM
To: Cross project issues
Subject: [cross-project-issues-dev] Projects missing from Mars

 

Greetings folks.

I believe that I'm caught up with the opt-in.

The following projects are on the "dropped" list:

?         Intent

?         Target Management

?         Data Tools Platform

?         Java Workflow Tooling

?         Marketplace Client

?         Koneki

?         Target Communication Framework


Both Intent and Target Management have informed the community that they've dropped out (though there is still some ongoing discussion regarding TM).

The rest have not yet created a release record. I'm expecting that least two of them (Data Tools and Marketplace Client) really do want to participate. I'll give them all a kick.

Wayne

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