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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] TM withdrawal from Mars

Looks interesting. Will need to look closer ;)

Looking mainly for answers to:

Is this part of Mars ?

Does it support ftp ?

Does it support using them as linked folders/remote file systems ?

/max


On 21 Nov 2014, at 22:15, Denis Roy <denis.roy@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 11/21/2014 04:04 PM, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
Got info on this org.eclipse.parralls option?

http://git.eclipse.org/c/ptp/org.eclipse.remote.git/  ?



Btw. I used as little as possible from tm. But the remote explorer and file system support 
I haven't found anywhere else in eclipse ecosystem so 
If we got something in the release train that is better I'm interested. 


On 21 Nov 2014, at 21:46, Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

You had me at "hello".

Wayne

On 21/11/14 03:30 PM, Doug Schaefern       wrote:
The fact of the matter is that RSE is an architectural nightmare. It has a history as a remote environment for IBM mainframes which was super overkill for what we use it for in the Linux and embedded space. Good riddance IMHO.

To that end, I am currently working on removing our dependency on RSE in CDT and will be using the org.eclipse.remote plug-ins started by the Parallel Tools folks. It’s a much simpler architecture and super easy to extend. It already has support for ssh connections.

Doug.

From: Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Organization: The Eclipse Foundation
Reply-To: Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Friday, November 21, 2014 at 2:51 PM
To: "cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx" <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] TM withdrawal from Mars

I had a similar thought. I actually use RSE. In fact, I just did a bunch of work to include an adapter for my "image viewer" plug-in to preview images via RSE (I'll share this shortly).

There's no requirement for a project to make new releases for the simultaneous release. There's nothing stopping a project from just contributing a service release.

I should think that most of the heavy lifting is done. It's perfectly reasonable for a project to remain in maintenance mode.

What additional resources to you believe that you require? I believe that all you need to do is declare your participation and make sure that the aggregation file is correct. Perhaps others can help with this.

Wayne

On 21/11/14 02:41 PM, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
That sounds really bad :/
This means if I grok it right that eclipse will loose its ability to mount and browse Ftp and scp files systems, correct ?

If that goes eclipse becomes really weak in the already remote heavy access world with cloud and containers. 

For one our server adapters utilizes this to support remote deployment to file based servers. 

What would it take for keeping rse or at least parts of it alive for mars and future releases ?

/max
http://about.me/maxandersen
On 21 Nov 2014, at 17:25, Greg Watson <g.watson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

The Target Management (TM) project is comprised of two main projects: Remote System Explorer (RSE) and Terminal. Only the Terminal project is under active development, and there are plans currently to merge this with the TCF Terminal project. We are planning to have one final release of TM (3.7) to coincide with Luna SR2, and then only provide service releases on an as-needed basis. As a consequence, we don’t have the resources to contribute to a Mars release, so are notifying everyone of our intention to withdraw from Mars. 

Please let us know if there are any comments or concerns regarding this.

Regards,
Greg
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