|Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] [Doug on the Eclipse CDT] New comment on "Eclipse smells kind of dead"???.
The line numbers is a great example. There is no way to win other than make it easy to turn on.
And, yes, the preferences is an absolute mess. New users are intimidated when they open it up by all the choices. Same thing happens when they open the context menu in the project navigator and editors.
We've built a great UI framework at Eclipse. Every plugin is allowed to add anything they want to the preferences, menus, and toolbars. And they do so a lot and inconsistent ways and it ends up a mess.
We need some way to clean it up and simplify the UI for the majority of the users that need it.
On 13/07/2013 1:57 PM, Fabian Steeg wrote:
Yes, I was just chatting to someone else about that today.
No, it will just annoy the hell out of people, much like the latest software update made all my firefox tabs bigger. I didn't ask for that and had to Google to find out how to make them smaller again, and even now, that style setting makes the font smaller, so it just don't look the same anymore (the same size tabs but smaller fonts). It's just not an improvement! I really hate it, though I don't hate firefox!
How about something like a prominent "configure" on the welcome page which brings up a wizard that includes the top 10 settings for behaviors that people complain and are completely configurable to eliminate those complaints.
It would still be nice to easily deviate from this, without having to find the preferences in the rat's nest of preference. Determining the "most hated default settings" and the "most hated behaviors configurable via settings" and making the user aware of their total control over these things on first start up seems like a good solution.
I agree that something along these lines would be a good thing to explore. It's silly to have people hate Eclipse because it doesn't show line numbers by default in the text editors. I personally hate line numbers. They're a waste of valuable space. But that's just my biased opinion.
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