|Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] FW: [Doug on the Eclipse CDT] New comment on "Eclipse smells kind of dead"???.
Hi That's exactly what I mean by 'less prejudiced'.The project committers can always produce a long list of reasons for WONTFIX, often including time/money.
The users can produce a long list of WIBNIFs.If an independent view considers the benefits are genuine and outweigh the problems, then it may be that once time/money is available a way should be found.
Perhaps an overruled WONTFIX could attract 'funding' from a foundation let's-not-suck fund.
Ultimately if there is something that the user's resonably want, I feel that we should be looking for a way to provide it.
Regards Ed Willink On 12/07/2013 18:57, Ed Merks wrote:
Igor,I think it's even stronger than that. In the end, WONTFIX shouldn't mean "I don't have time or I don't feel like it" but rather "it's working as designed and changing it isn't what I believe is appropriate". As such, even if someone provided a "fix," that's not what's desired. Committers have the right and in fact an obligation to maintain design integrity; sometimes that annoys people. In any case, we're not obligated to spend every waking moment of every day to fix every reported problem, though it sometimes feels that way....Regards, Ed On 12/07/2013 7:26 PM, Igor Fedorenko wrote:How is this going to help? In most/all cases bugs are not fixed because nobody comes forward with quality fixes. Weather somebody says "it needs to be fixed" does not matter unless his/her words are backed up by the code. -- Regards, Igor On 2013-07-12 11:50 PM, Ed Willink wrote:Hi Get a committer from a related but independent project to review the Bugzilla discussion to form a less prejudiced on view on whether the WONTFIX is justified. Regards Ed Willink On 12/07/2013 17:25, Doug Schaefer wrote:It is. And I'm sure there are hate sites for every tool people use. Eclipse isn't unique that way. My point is that user experience is so important to our success, we need to be sensitive to the issues our users are facing. There are a lot of such issues marked WONTFIX, and CDT is as guilty of that as anyone. I'm just wondering how we fix it. Doug._______________________________________________ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev_______________________________________________ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev_______________________________________________ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3349 / Virus Database: 3204/6486 - Release Date: 07/12/13
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