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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] 6 month release cycle

What's the point of releasing often if there are no new features?


On 2013-07-02 11:56 PM, Doug Schaefer wrote:
Funny, that came up in our conversation too. Years ago, M releases were awesome. They always had new features and the quality was pretty good. But then the quality stopped being so good and there were less features, so people cared less about M releases. And that has left a long period of time where people really care about Eclipse releases.


From: cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] on behalf of Igor Fedorenko [ifedorenko@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 3:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] 6 month release cycle

I agree, one year is way too long. I am not even sure 6 months is often
enough. We had three m2e releases between Juno and Kepler, and I
consider m2e mature, (relatively) low-activity project. At the same
time, I never use R builds myself, I always use M-builds as primary
development environment for my $DAY_JOB. I don't suggest we do
full-blown release every 6 weeks, but maybe there is a way to elevate
perceived status of M builds such that users are more comfortable using


On 2013-07-02 11:30 PM, Doug Schaefer wrote:
Hey gang,

We have a discussion going in the CDT community and we are currently
planning out how to achieve a 6 month release cycle. The feeling is that
we need to get new features out faster to our users. The year long wait
we currently have is making releases sluggish and I fear it's slowing
down growth in our community. A 6 month cycle should infuse us with a
little more energy, so goes the hope.

I mentioned CDT's plans on twitter and a number of senior members of our
larger Eclipse community thought it might be a good idea for other
projects at Eclipse and maybe for the train itself. And I think so too.

Instead of continuing that discussion on twitter, which is fun and
everything, I thought we should bring that to a greater audience and see
what other projects thought and whether it's something we should bring
to the Planning Council and the rest of the EMO.

I know there are a number of projects already releasing off stream
during the year, but bringing things together more often might be a help
to many others. But I'd like to hear your thoughts on that.


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