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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Missing release information for some Kepler projects

Hello,

We are in the process of making a last minute build of Lua Development Tools against DLTK 5 and therefore there should be no showstopper for RC4. This is very unfortunate though, and is costing us lots of efforts to validate the product against this new major version, while we deliberately used the last couple weeks to stabilize and validate it. 
I would like to re-iterate that it's really not acceptable on the long run to rely on a framework that shipped its p2 repo (and contribution to Kepler) for the first time of the release train on June 6. Also, it is really unclear when one should expect milestones from DLTK, since I don't think a project plan is actually maintained by the project (?)

Thank you,
Benjamin-- 


De : John Arthorne <John_Arthorne@xxxxxxxxxx>
Rpondre  : Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date : lundi 10 juin 2013 20:35
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Objet : Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Missing release information for some Kepler projects

I recall the planning council recently decided on a policy that we would not allow a new release of a project to appear for the first time after RC1. Am I remembering that incorrectly? This is exactly the kind of last minute change that caused trouble for the release train in Juno SR2. I think at this point they should be contributing the same release that was contributed in RC1, which sounds like 4.0.

John



From:        David M Williams <david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx>
To:        Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date:        06/07/2013 09:52 AM
Subject:        Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Missing release information for some Kepler projects
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I agree its "not cool". I do not know their reasons for it. I do recall them sending a note a month or two ago "asking for preferences" ... so suggest you and DLTK project work out which is best (for you to move to 5.x or them to revert to 4.x). There should only be one version major version in the common repository.

Good luck,





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Benjamin Cab <bcabe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Missing release information for some Kepler projects
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Hi,


Contributing DLTK 5.0 and removing 4.0 at the very last minute (RC3) to the Kepler repo with no previous contribution before that would have allowed Koneki Lua Development Tools to be tested against it, is not really cool to say the least. LDT contribution to Kepler is now broken. Any chance to also include DLTK 4.0 into the Kepler repo?


Thanks.

Benjamin--



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Date :
jeudi 9 mai 2013 17:49
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Missing release information for some Kepler projects


Hi,


Unfortunately The DLTK team were quite busy this year with other projects. Initially the previous (4.0, released 2012) version was added to Kepler, with the intent to replace it later with the 5.0 builds from master. So far, that did not happen yet, partly because of source control (-> git) & build system (-> tycho) changes.


AFAIK DLTK is used by PDT and Koneki-Lua Development Tools.

So the question to these projects: what DLTK version would you prefer in Kepler?


Regards,

Alex



On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:26 AM, Wayne Beaton <
wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I am now only missing the information for the DLTK and Runtime Packaging (RTP) project. I have contacted DLTK via their mailing list; Ian has contacted the RTP project leaders directly (thanks, Ian).

I noticed that DLTK is contributing their 4.0 release build (from Juno) to Kepler, despite there being some apparent activity in the project Git repositories. I don't know if there is any specific issue with this, but thought that I'd point it out in case any downstream consumers had any concerns/issues.

Thanks,



Wayne


On 04/26/2013 02:38 PM, Wayne Beaton wrote:

I am missing release information for the following projects that have declared intent to participate in Kepler.

C/C++ Development Tools (CDT)
Dynamic Languages Toolkit (DLTK)
Eclipse Modeling Framework (EMF)
Eclipse Communication Framework (ECF)
Runtime Packaging Project (RTP)
EclipseLink
Ecore Tools
Extended Editing Framework (EEF)
Jubula Functional Testing Tool
MDT XSD (XML Schema Definition)
Maven Integration for Web Tools Platform
SCA Tools

In some cases, it may be that I just can't sort out what release you want to include, or maybe you're planning to include a release that does not occur on the Kepler release date (which I find weird, but is otherwise okay).

If you have not done so already, please visit your project's information page and create a release record for Kepler and then please let me know either on this list or via direct email so that I can update the Kepler release page.

I will not accept review documentation for any release that is not recorded in the project metadata.


While you're there, please take a few minutes to update the description and plan information for your release. The description should be a  short paragraph that concisely describes the high points of the release. Note that you can still use the old XML-file based plan format if you like using old and painful technology.

You can quickly get access to your project's information page directly from the Kepler release page:


https://projects.eclipse.org/releases/kepler

Let me know if you require any assistance.

Wayne

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