Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Performance, 3.8 versus 4.2

[Stephan Herrmann <stephan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 09/06/2012 08:23 AM, Thomas Hallgren wrote:
> Introducing a new platform undoubtedly consumes a lot of resources.
> Doing that anyway (and as the only viable alternative), well aware that
> those resources were scarce and that the new platform had inferior
> performance, and then blame the community for not helping, that doesn't
> fly well with me.

Maybe the problem is, "the community" isn't quite as homogeneous as
we keep thinking. 3.8 vs. 4.2 is a conflict of interests between
different groups of people.

If you are part of the group that only sees regressions not a single
improvement in 4.2, it's difficult to get motivated helping those
other guys getting their baby up to speed. Of course those who
greatly benefit from the new architecture don't want to get slowed
down by "legacy" decisions.

Lets call one group the IDE nerds and the other group the e4-RCP folks.
As a thought experiment: are the e4-RCP folks strong enough in resources
to make 4.3 a replacement that will not get into faces of the IDE nerds?

I don't know the answer, but I feel the answer differs depending on
whether you focus on functionality, bugs, performance or usability.

Yes, we are still one community, and I'm not advocating fences and
boundaries, but helping each other seems to work best when cost and
benefits are equally balanced in all regions of this community.



On 09/06/2012 07:06 AM, Pascal Rapicault wrote:
> But more importantly than all this is the meta conclusion that the
> era of being able to take the platform for granted is over and that
> we are all going to have to pay more attention to it, roll up our
> sleeves and contribute.

I'd like to second this. No part of the entire ecosystem can be taken
for granted, not the platform, not jdt, not p2, nor the team providers.
All components need continued care and everybody needs help
(no sarcasm intended, in case anyone wonders).

cheers,
Stephan

PS: Great to see efforts to bring performance tests back! Thanks!