Hi John,
The bugzilla has 85 comments as I write this. It's a pretty
convincing essay over the current state of affairs and I think
that Andrey Loskutov's last comment raises some interesting
questions to be answered by the PMC.
Of course I could spend a couple of hours collecting profiler
output and add yet another comment but it doesn't seem to be very
relevant. A far more viable approach would be to do what Andrey
suggests and reinstate the performance regression tests. I'm too
surprised that a decision was made to have them discontinued,
especially since I just learned that the initial results were
quite horrible. The "Close All" and "Close Each" that's been
mentioned in this thread both shows a 2000% performance regression
for instance. In fact, not counting the tests that are "too fast
to be meaningful", there's only one single test that doesn't show
a serious regression. Isn't that enough to get some serious
improvement work going?
I'm back to my original question; why is the 4.2
platform what's
being fronted on the Eclipse download page? What can be done
about it today? Is the 4.2SR1 anywhere close to be as good as
3.8 (I was initially disappointed when testing the latest
milestone)? Can the download page be changed so that 3.8 is more
visible? Can we have the 3.8 based EPP packages back?
I'm asking because I feel that the current situation is unfair,
both to the Eclipse community and to the new 4.2 technology. It
should have been incubated longer. As it stands now, it risks to
get a very bad reputation. Perhaps resources can be mustered up so
that a) tests can be reinstated and b) the regressions can be
fixed, in time for Kepler?
- thomas
On 2012-09-05 15:21, John Arthorne wrote:
I suggest anyone
having problems to add
constructive details on that bug. For example profiler output
when repeatedly
performing a slow operation, what plugins are installed, whether
it is
reproducible with vanilla Eclipse SDK, etc. There are some users
reporting
pervasive slowdowns, and for many others it is performing well.
Something
like a listener leak could have effects like this in conjunction
with particular
installed plugins. It takes time after any major release to
isolate and
resolve problems like this.
John
It's an issue not always reproducable.
I never meet such problem in my environments. But I know
somebody has similar
problem.
Bug 385272[1] is a known report.
[1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=385272
Kane
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Thomas Hallgren
<thomas@xxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi,
For various reasons I had to switch my development environment
from 4.2
to 3.8 today. I was stunned by the performance improvement after
the switch.
The 3.8 platform is much MUCH faster. It boots faster, it closes
windows
faster, it shows menus faster, etc. It also seems to consume
less memory
and be less buggy. The way things stand right now, there's just
no way
I'll switch back to 4.2!
I must say I was very surprised by this. Why is the 4.2 platform
what's
being fronted on the Eclipse download page when it's user
experience and
quality is lagging behind this much? Is it just me who have had
this experience?
Regards,
Thomas Hallgren
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