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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Re: NAB on Ganymede
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Updated.
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Ganymede_Simultaneous_Release#Must_Do
Question:
I understand that language barriers can be troublesome, but if the requirement wasn't clear, why didn't you ask your fellow DSDPers (Pawel, Martin, Ted), your PMC, or anyone on the cross-projects-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx list? Surely someone could have shown you how to implement & verify your compliance with the requirement.
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Nick Boldt :: Release Engineer, IBM Toronto Lab
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Shigeki Moride <moride@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Shigeki Moride <moride@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent by: moride.shigeki@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
07/03/08 08:54 PM
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Hello Nick,
Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:58:18 -0400
Nick Boldt <codeslave@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> This page:
>
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Ganymede#Ganymede_Builds
> *
> The Ganymede Build <http://wiki.eclipse.org/Ganymede/Build> page is
> where you go to learn how to add your project to the Ganymede build.
>
> *... links to
>
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Ganymede/Build
>
> which includes this section, detailing both the syntax of the .sc file
> and what it should contain:
>
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Ganymede/Build#The_Projects.27_Roles
>
> Perhaps we need to rewrite that page a little?
I feel the need of direct link to Ganymede_Builds page *.sc file section
at MustDo #10 sentence.
And other MustDo issues if possible.
Shigeki
> Nick
>
> Shigeki Moride wrote:
> > Hi all
> > I talked with Doug and Martin. I forward this discussion to here.
> > So, if the Ganymede gate isn't closed now then I want to join to
> > Ganymede train.
> > And I apologize this lazy boarding and my poor English skill.
> > Shigeki
> > Thu, 3 Jul 2008 05:21:16 -0700
> > "Gaff, Doug" <doug.gaff@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:doug.gaff@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Martin. I forgot that the planning council list was closed.
> > Shigeki, if you post to cross-projects, I値l forward a copy to the
> > planning council to expedite this.
> >
> > *From:* Oberhuber, Martin
> > *Sent:* Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:13 AM
> > *To:* Gaff, Doug; 'Shigeki Moride'
> > *Subject:* RE: NAB
> >
> > Hi Shigeki,
> >
> > please post to the
> >
> > cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > mailing list as well as the
> >
> > eclipse.org-planning-council@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:eclipse.org-planning-council@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > mailing list.
> >
> > I know that you are subscribed to cross-project, but I am not
> >
> > 100% sure if you are also subscribed to planning-council.
> >
> > The planning council list is a "closed" one where you need
> >
> > to ask the EMO by means of an E-Mail to get subscribed --
> >
> > you cannot subscribe yourself there.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > --
> >
> > *Martin Oberhuber*, Senior Member of Technical Staff, *Wind River*
> >
> > Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
> >
> > http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > *From:* Gaff, Doug
> > *Sent:* Thursday, July 03, 2008 2:10 PM
> > *To:* Shigeki Moride
> > *Cc:* Oberhuber, Martin
> > *Subject:* RE: NAB
> >
> > Can you post this to eclipse.org-planning-council today? You
> > can subscribe here if you池e not already subscribed:
> >
> > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/eclipse.org-planning-council
> >
> > I think it may be too late, but let痴 see.
> >
> > *From:* moride.shigeki@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:moride.shigeki@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Shigeki
> > Moride
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:45 PM
> > *To:* Gaff, Doug
> > *Subject:* Re: NAB
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > Sorry, yesterday was a holiday.
> >
> > Firstly, eclipse.org-planning-council ML is not feeding for me.
> >
> > So, I think the reason of this fact.
> >
> > 1) I couldn't understand the meaning of Ganymede Must Do #10.
> > I understand that term as about Ganymede Signoff page on wiki.
> > Is there any pointer to the issue of *.sc file?
> >
> > 2) I seem Ganymede Build page is only described "automatic
> > build". I couldn't find the necessity to making *.sc file to
> > the project that have a builded packages.
> >
> > 3) I feel relief at the passage of the release review.
> >
> > 4) Generally, if that issue was announced on
> > cross-project-issues-dev or other ML then it is too difficult
> > to find it. Because that ML have too much traffic to read all
> > for non-native English reader. I'm sorry about this but this
> > is a fact. I need help to tracking that discussion. Please
> > give me a head-up information.
> >
> > Shigeki
> >
> > Tue, 1 Jul 2008 06:44:58 -0700
> >
> > "Gaff, Doug" <doug.gaff@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:doug.gaff@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Shigeki,
> >
> > Are you following the discussion on the
> > eclipse.org-planning-council mailing list? Martin and I
> > have advocated that you be added to the Ganymede release.
> > But it痴 really time for you to make the case on the list
> > and explain why you didn稚 understand the instructions.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > *From:* Oberhuber, Martin
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:26 AM
> > *To:* Gaff, Doug
> > *Subject:* RE: NAB
> > *Importance:* High
> >
> > Hi Doug,
> >
> > I think that Shigeki should have the final word on this.
> > It doesn't seem
> >
> > right that we fight for his project, and he doesn't even
> > care about sending
> >
> > a single e-mail to the cross-project list. I think he must
> > have the final
> >
> > word of either
> >
> > (a) explaining why he didn't understand the instructions,
> > and asking for
> >
> > his project to be picked up, or
> >
> > (b) withdrawing the request.
> >
> > After all it's his project and we're just mentoring it,
> > right? My personal
> >
> > opinion (and that's for Doug S, Nick and Bjorn) is that
> > while it seems
> >
> > absolutely obvious for us build+releng guys that creating
> > a *.sc file is
> >
> > required for the Ganymatic, it's not that obvious for
> > somebody just reading
> >
> > the "must do's". The original text, already cited by Nick, is:
> >
> > "Projects must have stated and demonstrated their
> > intent to join Ganymede by the M4+0 date. Projects do
> > so by adding themselves to the table/list above and to
> > the Ganymede common build infrastructure. "
> > (http://wiki.eclipse.org/Ganymede#Must_Do, #10)
> >
> >
> > So, Shigeki did add himself to the list, but what the heck
> > would that
> >
> > ... and to the Ganymede build infrastructure" mean?
> >
> > I agree that SHigeki can't have been too keen about
> > joining Ganymede
> >
> > but it might also be a cultural question.
> >
> > However, I think he should have the final word, and not you.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > --
> >
> > *Martin Oberhuber*, Senior Member of Technical Staff,
> > *Wind River*
> >
> > Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
> >
> > http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
> >
> > --
> >
> > Shigeki Moride
> >
> > moride.shigeki@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:moride.shigeki@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > moride@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:moride@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > --
> > Shigeki Moride
> > moride.shigeki@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:moride.shigeki@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > moride@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:moride@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/User:Nickb
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