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RE: [cross-project-issues-dev] Re: [eclipse.org-planning-council] Europa maintenance
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Can I just remind everyone that we need to make sure EPP has the four
packages tested and ready before we release. Hopefully Markus can comment
but I think he has been having problems building the packages this week, so
we might be later than Friday.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cross-project-
> issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Denis Roy
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 4:26 PM
> To: Cross project issues
> Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Re: [eclipse.org-planning-council]
> Europa maintenance
>
> Hi Kim,
>
> There's so much traffic on the cross-project list that (I don't pay
> attention to it and) I only found out about an upcoming release yesterday.
>
> Essentially, I freeze when you folks tell me to.
>
> Thursday at noon ET? Release Friday morning 9am ET? Sounds good to me.
>
> Denis
>
>
>
> Kim Moir wrote:
> >
> > The main download page is not the only source for downloads. There are
> > also downloads via update manager and from individual project pages.
> >
> > In the past, having a new release available only on eclipse.org and not
> > any mirrors has overloaded the servers and frustrated users who are
> > unable download in a timely fashion. I presume this is still a concern?
> >
> > Therefore, as a courtesy, I'm asking when the servers will be frozen so
> > we can push our content up to eclipse.org, and allow the mirrors to
> > synchronize. Will it be 10 am EDT, tomorrow? 11am?
> >
> > It seems this same question comes up every regular and maintenance
> > coordinated release. In the future, it would be nice to have a plan in
> > advance so everyone is on the same page :-)
> >
> > Kim
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *"Nathan Gervais" <nathan@xxxxxxxxxxx>*
> > Sent by: cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > 09/26/2007 03:30 PM
> > Please respond to
> > Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >
> >
> > To
> > "'Cross project issues'" <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > cc
> >
> > Subject
> > RE: [cross-project-issues-dev] Re:
> > [eclipse.org-planning-council] Europa maintenance
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Kim et al,
> >
> > Denis and I spoke about this yesterday. Once the mirrors have
> > replicated the bits then I'll make sure the download page gets updated
> > with the new packages.
> >
> > Nathan Gervais - _nathan@eclipse.org_ <mailto:nathan@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Web Developer
> > The Eclipse Foundation
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > *From:* cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Kim
> > Moir*
> > Sent:* Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:04 PM*
> > To:* Cross project issues*
> > Cc:* eclipse.org-planning-council*
> > Subject:* Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Re:
> > [eclipse.org-planning-council] Europa maintenance
> >
> >
> > Just to clarify, has everyone agreed to the plan to have all projects
> > push their content to the servers at Thursday noon EDT as the Nick
> > suggested? So am I to assume that the the synchronization between the
> > server nodes will be frozen before noon - what time? A confirmation
> > from the Eclipse foundation would be appreciated :-)
> >
> > In the past, making a release available without mirror replication has
> > caused the servers and webmasters to overheat so I'd like to avoid that.
> >
> > Kim
> >
> >
> > *Nick Boldt/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA*
> > Sent by: cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > 09/25/2007 01:30 PM
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> > Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >
> >
> > To
> > "eclipse.org-planning-council" <eclipse.org-planning-
> council@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > cc
> > Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject
> > [cross-project-issues-dev] Re: [eclipse.org-planning-council]
> > Europa maintenance
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > If last year is any indication of how this year will go, trying to do
> > all the promotes on Friday at the same time everyone starts
> > downloading the Fall Maintenance bits will be madness -- maxed
> > bandwidth, broken uploads, broken downloads, frustrated users, etc.
> >
> > Can we implement a Thursday cutoff for mirror synching like we did in
> > June? That is, +2 projects will have their final bits on the server by
> > noonish on Thu, so that there's 24hrs for mirror replication before
> > the public release on Friday.
> >
> > Are +2 projects ok with losing a day from the schedule?
> >
> > If so, we should also update the Winter Maintenance schedule to do the
> same.
> >
> > Nick
> >
> > On 9/25/07, Markus Knauer <mknauer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > According to http://wiki.eclipse.org/Europa#Coordinated_Maintenance
> > the +0
> > > date was Monday, but there is still a build with 'Overall Status:
> Fail'
> > > listed on the status page, dated 21st of September.
> > >
> > > I think this is something that definitely must be improved for the
> > Ganymede
> > > release, but now it is important to get a stable Europa Fall
> Maintenance
> > > build.
> > >
> > > * Release date == +2 date (both on Friday, 28th)
> > >
> > > -> Given that the above webpage is correct, then there are many
> > projects
> > > delivering their content on that day; I am happy if the first
> Europa
> > > build works without problem, but I expect some errors.
> > >
> > > -> What about giving the mirror servers some time to sync?
> > >
> > > * EPP packaging builds...
> > >
> > > -> I need a consistent Eclipse Europa Update Site to build the
> > packages, and
> > > this was not always the case. In fact, most of the time the
> > build was
> > > broken. This is another issue that we should keep in mind for
> > Ganymede.
> > >
> > > -> I would like to update all the EPP download packages on the same
> > day with
> > > the Europa Fall Maintenance Release, but to be realistic: I
> > don't think
> > > this goal is within reach. I would prefer to build the packages
> > as soon
> > > as the Europa build gets green, upload them as usual to the EPP
> > download
> > > area and if everything looks good, change the Eclipse download
> page
> > > next Tuesday (2007-10-02).
> > >
> > > Markus
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Monday 24 September 2007 23:58, Kim Moir wrote:
> > > > Looking at the Europa build page, this is the week we release the
> > Europa
> > > > maintenance release.
> > > >
> > > > http://wiki.eclipse.org/Europa#Coordinated_Maintenance
> > > >
> > > > >From at the build schedule, it doesn't seem that there are any
> builds
> > > >
> > > > scheduled for today.
> > > >
> > > > http://wiki.eclipse.org/Europa/Build#When_The_Europa-o-Matic_Runs
> > > >
> > > > Given that we are releasing this week, shouldn't the builds be more
> > > > frequent, for instance every night at least?
> > > >
> > > > Also, it would be nice if there were a schedule with dates and
> > times for
> > > > pushing the release builds up to eclipse.org so allow the mirrors
> > adequate
> > > > time to sync.
> > > >
> > > > Kim
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > eclipse.org-planning-council@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/eclipse.org-planning-council
> > >
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