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RE: [cross-project-issues-dev] Corona features updated for M7.
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Dennis,
We did a bit of research and understand
now what happened. Basically we used to have a yellow status that
meant the bundle was intended for 3.2 (at that time it was the next release)
but not yet ready. In that context green was "good to go now",
yellow was "will be good by release time but not yet" and red
was "danger". Somewhere after 3.2 we lost the yellow list
so the context from the web page was no longer clear.
Similarly, the Equinox zip download
was originally a convenience allowing people to get everything Equinox
had to offer. There was some push back that it should represent the
"real stuff" as we have a separate set of downloads for things
that are in progress or incubating. As such, the bundle was removed
from the equinox zip.
Anyway, I'm sorry that this lack of
clarity is causing trouble for you. Going forward we will enhance
the bundles page to better capture the state and intentions wrt to each
bundle. DJ has been working on a mechanism for doing that and it
should be ready soon.
As for your immediate situation, we
have no plans to do anything with any DS implementation for Europa. The
Prosyst contribution will pop out of the IP process (hopefully soon) and
into the Equinox incubator. Then it will need to be reviewed and
updated by the team before it can graduate into the Bundles component and
be included as part of the mainstream. I cannot make any claims wrt
timeline on that.
I happened to join the Europa call for
a few minutes today and there was some suggestion of you including the
current DS code directly in your bundles. This is fine with me as
long as the status of the code is clearly communicated. I would not
want to have an org.eclipse.equinox.ds bundle appearing on a Europa update
site for example. I don't know if there are any process/legal issues
that would need to be addressed if you wanted to go down this path.
Jeff
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Jeff,
Corona has been slowly building
dependencies upon Declarative Services since Eclipse v3.3M2. Beginning
with this Europa milestone, DS has been included in the eclipse-equinox-3.3Mx.zip
distribution. Starting with 3.3M7, DS was no longer included in the
equinox distribution.
The status of DS is “red”,
meaning “bundle development is in progress”, we assumed it would be completed
and released with 3.3. We based this assumption upon its reference
in equinox’s 3.3 plan as well as its availability in the M2-M6 distributions.
Beginning with M7, we realized that this assumption is not valid.
We are trying to take appropriate
steps to resolve this issue. Any feedback on the following
would be very helpful.
1. What
are our options for using DS with Europa?
2. Is
there an estimate when will DS (Prosyst contribution) will be “green”
status?
Thanks,
-Dennis
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McAffer
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Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Corona features updated for
M7.
AFAIK the only limitation is on including it in a "release".
If whatever you are shipping has to go through a release review then
you will not pass as the Equinox DS implementation is not ready for release.
(Bjorn may have more to add here)
I'm not sure when/where DS was included in an Equinox milestone but if
it was, it was a mistake. The bundle status page has always show
it as "red" meaning "in development". Indeed
we are on a path to scrap that implementation in favor of a new one from
the friendly folks at Prosyst (still in IP review I believe)
Jeff
Marcin Okraszewski <marcin.okraszewski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Hi Jeff,
We can remove it from distribution. As org.eclipse.equinox.ds is implementation
of DS, there is not direct dependency, so Corona can be deployed into Eclipse.
But, unfortunately, Corona won't work without DS at this moment. We relay
on its service resolution. We didn't expect this situation, because DS
was included in previous milestone. We have to figure something out quickly.
Cheers,
Marcin
Jeff McAffer wrote:
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> Thanks. This does raise an interesting question as to why it was
> there. That is, if you can just ask releng to remove it, it must not
> be critical/essential. Enquiring minds want to know...
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> Jeff
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> DS is not included in the Equinox feature because it is not ready
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> release. The Equinox team has is not releasing that for Europa as
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> has several known and critical problems. Summary, you cannot include
> DS in Europa.
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> Ready for Europa.
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> Just one thing - we are distributing org.eclipse.equinox.ds, since
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> Cheers,
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