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RE: [cross-project-issues-dev] Callisto quality


I agree with John's point and I think for us (each involved project) an easy way to find (and report) earlier this kind of problems is to use the full install of Callisto (RC1 and following builds) instead of just Eclipse SDK in our development process.

Marius



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John,

Your point is important especially if Callisto is publicly announced.
People might see it as an example of what quality the Eclipse foundation
can deliver. So we need to provide a Callisto release that looks really
good and rock solid. I did some testing and I have to admit that I have
been disappointed. I didn't expect basic scenarios to fail in a RC1
release.

Olivier




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I?m not clear what point you are trying to raise, but I do hope you?ve
raised bugs for the issues you?ve seen.

Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems
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Are there any quality goals set for the Callisto release?  I ask because I
have been playing around with Callisto RC1, and it is nowhere near what I
would expect in quality from a release candidate.  I don't want to call
out any projects in particular, but some very basic scenarios I tried
either didn't work at all or failed with various exceptions.  After a
couple of hours of simple testing I had 10MB of errors in my log file.
There is time left to fix these bugs, but it seems worth asking the
hypothetical question about quality criteria for the release.  In other
words, is the goal to ship all ten projects on June 30th come hell or high
water, or would either the set of projects or the date be changed if
quality goals are not met?  Again, I don't want to induce acrimony or
panic, but it seems fair to ask whether the function set, the quality, or
the ship date are set in stone.  Often, one or more of these must slip in
any successful release, but which would it be in the case of Callisto?

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