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RE: [cross-project-issues-dev] Callisto RC1 experience

No, please don't :-).  The platform is respining a build for  RC1a for

Please just update the news page to reflect that Callisto RC0 is available..not RC1. Someone already opened a bug.
Summary: Callisto RC1 annonced too early

Callisto is a release train that is supposed to showcase all the projects releasing together, so it would be best if we highlighted the Callisto release, instead of the releases for individual projects.  It's too confusing.


"Ian Skerrett" <ian.skerrett@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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04/20/2006 10:29 AM

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RE: [cross-project-issues-dev] Callisto RC1 experience

I agree that we need to fix the link on the home page.   Unfortunately, I think I jumped the gun on posting this, so I apologize for the confusion.
Could I suggest we just change the headline and link to ‘Eclipse SDK 3.2 RC1 is now available’ and point to the SDK download.   Once the full Callisto RC1 release is available we can do another post.   Does this make sense?
Ian Skerrett
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Eclipse Foundation, Inc.
Tel: 613-224-9461  ext. 227
Fax: 613-224-5172

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April 20, 2006 10:15 AM
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Callisto RC1 experience


That link on should really be fixed.  It is confusing two things in one news item.  It says the RC1 build of the SDK was available on April 13th, which is correct, but then it links to the Callisto discovery page, which is *not* Callisto RC1.  I believe it should be corrected to say that Eclipse Callisto 3.2 M6 is available, and link direclty to:

Rather than going to the confusing Callisto planning page. Also, the link shouldn't open a new browser window because it is navigating within  We've really got to keep it simple if it's being put on the main page for the whole community to see.  We need to consistently refer to Eclipse Callisto as the entire release train, rather than just the platform.  Until the entire release train reaches RC1, we shouldn't be announcing that "Eclipse Callisto RC1 is available".

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The home page says Callisto RC1 is "now available", so I click on the link which goes to:

There's nothing immediately visible on that first page about downloading, except the "Downloads" link at the top, which goes to the standard download page (and the most prominent link there is Eclipse SDK 3.1.2). I know that's not right so I keep looking.

I scroll down the Callisto page about halfway and find "Downloading and Using The Callisto Simultaneous Release". It says:

               The complete installation instructions are at the Callisto Update Discovery page.

I click on that link and it says:

               "This update site provides the features of the Callisto Release -- currently the M6 version.
                It requires that you have at least the Eclipse 3.2 Platform Feature installed (the M6 version).

               For example, to start with minimum foot-print, you can use the Platform Runtime Binary appropriate for  your operating system."

The link it gives for the Platform Runtime is .

Well I know that's not right so I go to the standard download page, select All versions, select 3.2RC1, ignore all the stuff at the top, scroll down halfway and find the section on Platform Runtime Binary, and select the link for the Windows platform (

Firefox asks me if I want to save it or open it. I know I should not overwrite my previous Eclipse install so I save it, rename my old version of Eclipse out of the way, locate the new zip again in my downloads directory, right-drag it to C:\Program Files, and select Extract to here (because I happen to have WinZip installed). It creates an eclipse directory.

I start Eclipse, get some errors about unable to restore workbench (I know this is ok because I was editing some Java programs before). Now I'm pretty much staring at a blank screen (not exactly blank but it says Java perspective, no icon, no editors, and has a blank stack of views at the bottom with Search, Console, and Progress).

Well I happen to know that I should do Help > Software Updates > Find and Install, select Search for new features to install, click Next, select Callisto Discovery Site, and click Finish. The window goes away for a while but I notice a progress counter in the bottom right of the window. Then I get a dialog that says:

               No features found on the selected site(s). Choose a different site or site category.

It says it twice for good measure (once in the title and once in the body), and has an OK button, which I press. Now I'm back to my blank screen.

Now at this point I know I can go try some other discovery url or go back and just get the 3.2RC1 SDK monster download, but how are normal users going to "know" all the stuff that I know?

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