Isn’t the MPWG charter explicit that backwards compatibility is not a goal of MP? I’d assumed that it was drafted that way on purpose along with “Experiment and Innovate” and “provides an industry
proving ground to incubate and experiment”?
It was from these charter principles and the strong desire from many to maintain WG independence that I suggested graduation to Jakarta EE in the first place.
Steve
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Correct, and that is what I am trying to get an understanding of as well. I believe config is a strong candidate for a spec that has different handling relative to the default behavior in MP. I believe Red Hat
would vote for a change in handling on the MP side in order to use config on the Jakarta side. On the Jakarta side Red Hat would vote to not have to duplicate the effort that has already been put in.
The question is whether that could be a consensus view across the two WGs.
My understanding is that there are only a few MP APIs considered for inclusion in Jakarta APIs. Are there no MP APIs that would be considered for
maintaining in a backward compatible way moving forward within the MP working group? Does such a demand for backward compatibility make it such that the API cannot be evolved within the MP working group?
I'm still trying to understand what the two working groups are open to for a solution to using MP APIs in Jakarta specifications.
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Yes, many and APIs were not intended to ever transition to the JCP. Even with the transition of JCP to Jakarta, there remain process, cost and lifecycle
issues that would cause Red Hat to target MP over Jakarta.