Re: [cdt-patch] Indexer Patch Resubmit

[Douglas Schaefer <dschaefe@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I guess it is fundamental that way. I do not think that plugins should be 
managing/controlling projects.

The questions I have trouble answering are what qualifies something as an 
"owner" of a project? Why does standard make and managed make "own" the 
project and not the language nature for the project, or some other aspect 
of a project? Who would own the project if we made managed make an 
extension of standard make as we've discussed in the past? What are the 
semantics behind ownership? What problems were we trying to solve by 
adding the concept of owner to the CDT?

Projects exist independent of the natures/builders that are attached to 
it. In fact, projects own what natures and builders are applied to it. By 
having one of the natures/builders owning the project seems to turn this 
upside down. This is something that has always bothered me, and I think 
I've finally found a concrete reason why. How many owners are going to 
forget to upgrade binary parsers and indexers and anything else we add in 
the future? Or are there any other owners or is this point moot?

Anyway, this is just my opinion and to change anything now probably isn't 
worth it. If it becomes too much of a problem, though, I'd like to revisit 
this.

Doug Schaefer
Ottawa Lab, IBM Rational Software Division



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But they are not just build plugins, they really manage/control the 
project itself
(and rightly should, no?). However I do understand your concern and would
like to here any thoughts on improving this (from the soul of course ;-)).

Douglas Schaefer wrote:
> I have applied this patch. I have a huge concern over the need to change 

> the build plugins to deal with non-build related issues. This 
information 
> is getting spread out way to far and will make it very difficult to 
change 
> in the future. Anyone implementing ICOwner and wish to use the indexer, 
> please clone the code. (Now that really hurts my architectural soul...)
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