Re: [cdt-dev] Fwd: [epp-dev] Juno M5 packages

[Doug Schaefer <cdtdoug@xxxxxxxxx>]

Also there was a bug tracking the design. I'm sure you can still make
comments on it:

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=293481

Doug.

On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Doug Schaefer <cdtdoug@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> No, but that comes down to UI design which is all personal taste. I
> actually like the Classic theme and will probably stick with that.
>
> Now the bugs, that's another matter...
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Fedja Jeleskovic <mrawd2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Doug,
>>
>> Did you by any chance open a bug against the extra white spaces between the
>> inner windows? This is also a big show stopper for me as well and I hope
>> there is a solution of it!
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Fedja
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Doug Schaefer <cdtdoug@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> I really hate all the extra white space between the view areas,
>>> especially when working on my smallish 720p home laptop screen. And I
>>> hate that the tabs between the inactive views don't have lines between
>>> them. Not sure exactly where to click to make them active.
>>>
>>> That and emacs keybindings are broken (I did raise a bug on that).
>>> That's a big show stopper for me and forced me to 3.8 as well. I
>>> tested M5 using 4.2, but I'm not sure if I can stay on it as I get
>>> back into the new project wizard work.
>>>
>>> At any rate, the platform team would appreciate bugs raised for the
>>> things that bug you.
>>>
>>> Doug.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Sergey Prigogin
>>> <eclipse.sprigogin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Doug Schaefer <cdtdoug@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I guess the question we should ask, is 4.2 uglier than 3.x? Is it a
>>> >> downgrade or just didn't meet expectations?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Much uglier (several other people I know share my opinion). I couldn't
>>> > stand
>>> > it and went back to 3.8.
>>> >
>>> > -sergey
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:50 PM, xgsa <xgsa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >> > That is the reason, why I asked about the 3.8 release :)
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > -------- Original message --------
>>> >> >
>>> >> > 4.2 is not only buggy, but the UI looks ugly. Do you know if any UI
>>> >> > designer
>>> >> > work is planned for 4.2?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > -sergey
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Doug Schaefer <cdtdoug@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> The plan has always to ship the Eclipse C/C++ IDE in Juno with the
>>> >> >> 4.2
>>> >> >> platform. In theory CDT could be used with both 3.8 and 4.2, but the
>>> >> >> package at eclipse.org will be 4.2.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Now, there is a subplot to this all. As McQ announced recently, the
>>> >> >> platform UI team is low on staff and this plan is in jeopardy.
>>> >> >> That's
>>> >> >> why finding these bugs is so important right now, so we can assess
>>> >> >> how
>>> >> >> good 4.2 is going to be and to see if these issues get addressed
>>> >> >> (and
>>> >> >> help get them addressed if you have the time/expertise to help).
>>> >> >> They
>>> >> >> are still committed to 4.2, but I am worried about it.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> But, yes, as I stated a few weeks ago here, please use 4.2 as your
>>> >> >> dev
>>> >> >> environment for CDT master (which will likely be CDT 9 - should make
>>> >> >> that call too I suppose).
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Doug.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, xgsa <xgsa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >> >> > I cannot find the actual information, will Eclipse 3.8 (with CDT)
>>> >> >> > be
>>> >> >> > released? Or just 4.2?
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Thanks,
>>> >> >> > Anton
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > -------- Original message --------
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Marc-Andre is right.  E4 currently has some limitations
>>> >> >> >> that affect the CDT quite much.  The E4 team is pretty responsive
>>> >> >> >> when we let them know of the issues, so it will be important
>>> >> >> >> to report our issues.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> For example, cutomizing perspectives is not supported right now,
>>> >> >> >> which prevents some features of CDT from being accessed
>>> >> >> >> altogether:
>>> >> >> >>  https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=320478
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> >> >>> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> >> >>> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marc-Andre
>>> >> >> >>> Laperle
>>> >> >> >>> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 2:06 AM
>>> >> >> >>> To: CDT General developers list.
>>> >> >> >>> Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] Fwd: [epp-dev] Juno M5 packages
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> I highly recommend that people test it. I only tested it for a
>>> >> >> >>> very
>>> >> >> >>> short time and already found 3 issues.
>>> >> >> >>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=331444
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> Marc-Andre
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> On 02/02/2012 1:30 PM, Doug Schaefer wrote:
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>> And here is the link for the Juno M5 C/C++ IDE candidate.
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> Let me know
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>> if you find any serious problems.
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>> Doug.
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> >> >> >>>> From: Markus Knauer<mknauer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >> >>>> Date: Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:58 PM
>>> >> >> >>>> Subject: [epp-dev] Juno M5 packages
>>> >> >> >>>> To: EPP Developer Mailing List<epp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>> Hi all,
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>> here is the second release to be tested, this time it's the
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> EPP build
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>> for Juno M5:
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>> http://build.eclipse.org/technology/epp/epp_build/juno/downloa
>>> >> >> >>> d/20120202-1517/
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>> Please test and vote... :)
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>> Thanks,
>>> >> >> >>>> Markus
>>> >> >> >>>>
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