Option 3 for me
I've put my comments in the bug
It seems that there was a little bit of a misunderstanding about
this change when we discussed it on the mailing list.
Option
1: Remove refresh buttons from all debugger views (this is what I thought
we were doing).
Option 2: Remove the refresh button from Debug view
only (this is what Navid requested when this thread opened).
Option
3: Link the refresh buttons to the Debug Update Modes action set (so that
they appear only when the action set is active). This is what my
original intention for this feature was IMO a reasonable compromise.
If
you have a strong opinion, please weigh in in bug
299834.
Cheers, Pawel
Marc Khouzam wrote:
+1 on what John said below.
My main argument is for giving the user
the general ability to refresh debugger views on demand, as I feel the
need for it was being questioned. I think it's a valid need and a feature
CDT should provide. I think it's useful to have that control on a per-view
granularity, but I don't feel terribly strongly about that. If it were
made optional, that seems fine to me; and if the per-view control wasn't
there, oh well. But what I do feel strongly about is that the capability
be there at a minimum as a global action (refresh all views) that is by
default hidden. When I first responded to this thread, I believed the
action in the Debug view refreshed all views.
At 11:16 AM
1/17/2010, Doug Schaefer wrote:
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 9:13
AM, Daniel Jacobowitz <dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
- On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 03:53:06PM -0600, John Cortell wrote:
- > "basic debugging" category. Embedded
debuggers fall into the "advanced"
- > one. My guess is CDT is used more in the
embedded world than the desktop
- > one.
- I really have to disagree. There are advanced and basic
users in both
- embedded and desktop environments, and supporting the basic users
is
- very important. The more buttons you give a new user the
less they
- like your product in my experience.
+1 My pet
peeve is UIs that are overloaded with buttons. It's very intimidating
for new users. Buttons should only be provided for the most basic
operations that are used most often. Everything else should be in a
menu. And even then it should only be shown when and where
applicable.
- If the main - not only, but main - way to get in trouble is using
the
- debug console, then maybe the debug console is where the action
should
- be? Even if it's not only useful for the console, that seems
like a
- reasonable place for it.
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- Daniel Jacobowitz
- CodeSourcery
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