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Re: [cdt-dev] CDT and Qt Creator
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I would venture a guess that Eclipse was much simper in its infancy, and
that the complexity has grown steadily as Eclipse caters to more and more
types of tools and applications. There certainly have been lots of
measures over the years to streamline the UI and improve the user
experience. Many have been effective, in my opinion, but it seems like
it's never enough.
Someone could write a very simple development toolset based on Eclipse
technology...but it would be little more than an RPC application. Users
want solutions highly customized to their exact needs. Software providers
want cost effective implementations and high reusability. I think these
two will always be at odds.
John
At 06:07 PM 12/10/2009, Pawel Piech wrote:
Hi Paul,
Complexity is a common complaint about Eclipse-based tools (not
especially limited to C - development tools). I don't know of any
efforts to overhaul the UI, but I expect that there would be a lot of
interest out there for it. For Wind River's part, we are
investigating creating a stripped-down version of the IDE specifically
targeted at Debugging use cases, but I know we won't be able to get far
without support from the community.
Cheers,
Pawel
Paul Beusterien wrote:
Hi CDT community,
I'm responsible for the tools strategy at the
Symbian Foundation.
Like the Eclipse Foundation, Symbian depends on the contributions from
open source communities to drive its mobile device platform technology
forward.
I'm curious if you have any thoughts about one of the challenges we're
facing with understanding/determining the direction for Symbian C++
development tools.
There are two open source communities vying for the Symbian C++ developer
- Qt Creator
and Carbide (based on CDT).
Carbide's investments have been primarily focused on adding features to
give more power to device creators. While it has become very
feature-full, it has also become very complex and hard to learn,
especially for developers that want to just build simple mobile
apps.
Qt Creator is a targeted C++ development environment with a big emphasis
on usability. For example, it has rigorous hurdles to add a button
or menu item. Now, it is rapidly adapting to improve its mobile
development capabilities.
Thus, we currently have a fragmented C++ developer story at
Symbian.
It is unlikely that Qt Creator will ever support the rich set of features
that Carbide currently provides to the power user.
Are there any initiatives will enable CDT based IDEs to lower its
learning curve and better support the needs of a simple C++ application
developer?
Thanks,
Paul
--
Paul Beusterien
Development Tools Manager
Symbian Foundation
Foster City, California USA
twitter: paulbeusterien
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